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[learning to count]

"my question for the mayor is WHY SHOULD I? cause your a good guy,because I recognize your a skilled player,because you mumbled mot her fuc ker to me when I drew 5 card 21AGAINST PAT 20 WITH $300 OUT.I DONT THINK SO!MONEY TALKS AD YOUR BULL SH IT GETS THE SHORT CUT!PERIOD."

Tisk Tisk why so angry???? The Mayor was just explaining in an objecive manner why we dont tip. Why dont you go back to a school and become a computer tech or a licensed practical nurse. There are many occupations which you can earn an honest living and actually provide a service that benifit's humanity.

There are two kinds of gambling degenerates at the table. The ploppy and the dealer. The dealer because he helps the greedy lying/cheating casinos steal the dumb ploppies mony. The dealers loses all the way around. The casino is the only winner there.

We would not play at your table any way. You are very hostile and your threat to short cutting revelas to us that you would do anything to stop a honest card counter from plying his trade; even cheat us and beat us and obviously file false charges against us. I hope you realize the wrong you are committing. I forgive you; but I will still take your money at the tables. : ) LTC

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Re: Dealers are people too.

But doesn't that kind of encounter hurt your EV? You'd be a lot better off just taking a whole cucumber and some salad oil from the buffet. As long as the buffet is comped.

 

[gehrig]

interesting.

one fine girlfriend, met on the "continent" yars ago, later stripped at numerous clubs on old compton street, soho. those wahinis had an amazing lifestyle and rigorous schedule. the clubs were about a 1-2 minute walk apart. spots were 6 minutes long such that the girls could do 5 an hour. the wages/tips were big such that she saved and later attended/was graduated from a significant nursing school. she's now in a middle eastern country as a trauma room nurse, making a huge salary, tax free. stripping has an age limit, nursing is good until at least the 60's.

 

[learning to count]

Does'nt that hurt you automonkey?

 

[john]

Re: interesting.

if you make 150K a year, couldn't you set aside maybe 100K of it every year? Then in 5 years, you'd be sitting pretty well. College is 4 years long. Ummm..........I don't get it.

 

[rocky]

Re: Run While You Still Have Legs!

rob...thank you for the voice of reason. What was the problem with my post...did these guys think I advocated green/black action for tokes or do they think dealers are sub-humans? A lousy buck or two every deck/shoe would be fine if everyone on the game did it. What's with the attitude with these gents about subway sandwich makers? Hey, like I said, maybe I spent too much time in LV...I toke the subway girl also...has anyone ever been in New Orleans? a wonderful custom down there of lagniappe(sic)...somethink like a a bakers dozen...y'know 13 for the price of 12. Just reverse the positions and you'll see why when you treat a subway sandwich girl or a casimo dealer in this manner, you'll be remembered with fondness and treated a LOT better the next time you're in their joint. Yes, the procedure manual specifies where the cut card goes...but do you think the floor/pit get out a ruler and examine? As far was correcting the dealer for a procedure matter...every joint I've worked at(I'm on my 18th one now) always speaks to the dealer AFTER they are off the game. I realize everyone is entitled to their opinion but lets all "try and get along, please?"

 

[learning to count]

Re: interesting.

99% of the strippers in the clubs tell this story so you will feel sorry for them and tip them. Hell who needs a bullshite story like that. It simple they show you what you wanna see and you pay. The 100 k usually goes up thier nose or thier pimps nose anyway.

 

[Rob McGarvey]

Re: Run While You Still Have Legs!

Well, I think because you are a dealer posting at a CC site, it's like wearing an American flag and going to an Iraqi soccer game. ;> Counters are "exceptional" in the fact that we can beat the house, and this tends to make us think that we are better than everone around us. We call people like our Mom and siblings "ploppies." We have attitude. Talk to the hand, unless you are a counter. I remember a trip into the US and it was around 3AM and I was hungry. I pulled into a truck stop and ordered macaroni salad and fried chicken. The waitress wore an outfit like you'd see in a 50's Pop Mechanic ad. She gave we twice as much chicken and macaroni as I had ordered, and it was all fresh, not yesterdays cluck cluck. I'll remember that as long as I live. I had enough eats for the entire trip, and a warm fuzzy feeling for the average American 9-5, or night shift worker that I will never have for McDonald's, Harrah's, Sam Boyd, or Subway. ;> A little more heart and a lot less attitude goes a long way. I give the Cuban Sinyorita a US1 each day for cleaning my entire room after me wife unit 1 and unit 2 have destroyed it and she writes us a love letter at the end of our stay. A wee tip goes a long way, and I hope the guys give it a try and stop thinking math math math. If they think $1 played for the dealer at +2TC or better eats into their advantage that much they better find a better game and put more cash on the table to get a real advantage. Or how about sequencing some A's or 7's and betting 1 for the dealer then. It's ALL good!

 

[gehrig]

that 150k/year could be higher than reality.

in any case, that "job", same as that of a beverage server, is limited timewise. i except that elderly lady that they finally 86'd at the horseshoe. notice a thread on bourie's site that was originated by a 30+ year old female who can't be hired at a southern hardrock joint since the manager "won't hire anyone over 30". the biggest number i've heard for a "las vegas" cocktail server was $250k/year. those of you who may play high dollar pits, surely have seen frequent green checque tokes. the couple of those local, former beverage servers whom i know, own rental property. these beverage servers, and i suspect the local strippers, clearly aren't all dopers or hookers.

that girlfriend mentioned earlier was able to fund a decent education, one beach house, and further travels after about 2 years stripping. now as a trauma center nurse, at something in the high five figures ($u.s.), she's got most of a second beach house paid for. the hours are longer but her employers and the co-workers are classier. a version of a maltese mob seemed to own many of the soho strip clubs. the "regular" clientele are an interesting lot.

 

[aceking29]

Re: "True artist" - are you joking?!

Dealing is a process, much like digging a ditch is a process, much like making a hamburger is a process, much like... well, you get the idea. Remedial, repetitive actions become hardwired in your brain. The muscle memory develops quickly.
were you describing dealing or playing?seems much the same to me.

 

[aceking29]

Re: Run While You Still Have Legs!

"Well, I think because you are a dealer posting at a CC site, it's like wearing an American flag and going to an Iraqi soccer game. ;>"

i must interject here.the only reason some dealers have come to post here is because a couple of your members started posting at a dealers' board.
i deal but also play and some of the info herein is very valuable.on the other hand some of the posts are so ridiculously inaccurate and stupid the dealer side in me must post.

 

[aceking29]

Re: If you see me...

Probably thge best post i have seen here to date !

 

[Rob McGarvey]

Post Away

There is nothing more important than knowledge, so feel free to educate and inform us. True, some of the guys are green here, and some will go trolling dealer boards to see how y'all think, but we can both learn from each other, for whatever the reason.

PS I deal to myself all the time. ;>

A I am a dealer
B I am a counter
C I am confused
D All of the above

 

[aceking29]

could not have said it better

my sentiments exactly."take care of those who take care of you".my dealing motto.
oh and screw those who screw you,ha....