Using the Canfield Master System

robertjsweet

New Member
After over 20 years of searching I finally found the master system advertised in the book, Blackjack Your Way to Riches by Richard A.Canfield(aka Joe Hinton, a pit boss in Las Vegas) . This counting system still is very effective today and includes something most systems don't, discussions on betting strategy, money management, charts for every situation you may encounter and situations you may face as a card counter and the ways to stay welcome in the casinos. The master system was offered for a period of time. This system uses a multi-tiered level of counting. Ace and Eight are Neutral. 2 and 3 and 7 are +1, 4 thru 6 are +2, 9 is -1, 10 thru King are -2. The charts for this system are extensive and complete. Most certainly and advanced system which includes tracking of 8's and Aces to adjust your running and exact count and adjustment for the number of decks remaining (certainly helpful when playing multiple decks and single deck games). The charts include every option available to the player, surrender, no surrender, double allowed after splits and double not allowed after splits, deal hits on soft 17 or dealer stays on soft 17. Recently played the system in Las Vegas against single and 2 deck games. In playing just under 3 hours of total playing time in 8 sessions (average session lasted only about 20 minutes I won 350 dollars net playing at 5 dollar tables with a 1 to 4 betting spread. Used the low table level to test out the effectiveness. Out of eight sessions I won 6 lost 1 and ended up even on the other session. The average win was small because of the small betting range and size of bet (between 5 and 20).
 

zengrifter

Banned
robertjsweet said:
After over 20 years of searching I finally found the master system advertised in the book, Blackjack Your Way to Riches by Richard A.Canfield(aka Joe Hinton, a pit boss in Las Vegas) . This counting system still is very effective today and includes something most systems don't, discussions on betting strategy, money management, charts for every situation you may encounter and situations you may face as a card counter and the ways to stay welcome in the casinos. The master system was offered for a period of time. This system uses a multi-tiered level of counting. Ace and Eight are Neutral. 2 and 3 and 7 are +1, 4 thru 6 are +2, 9 is -1, 10 thru King are -2. The charts for this system are extensive and complete. Most certainly and advanced system which includes tracking of 8's and Aces to adjust your running and exact count and adjustment for the number of decks remaining (certainly helpful when playing multiple decks and single deck games). The charts include every option available to the player, surrender, no surrender, double allowed after splits and double not allowed after splits, deal hits on soft 17 or dealer stays on soft 17. Recently played the system in Las Vegas against single and 2 deck games. In playing just under 3 hours of total playing time in 8 sessions (average session lasted only about 20 minutes I won 350 dollars net playing at 5 dollar tables with a 1 to 4 betting spread. Used the low table level to test out the effectiveness. Out of eight sessions I won 6 lost 1 and ended up even on the other session. The average win was small because of the small betting range and size of bet (between 5 and 20).
Obsolete forerunner of the Bryce Carlson obsolete AO2 system. zg
 

EasyRhino

Well-Known Member
An what's with the microsized sessions? Only three hours total? Wuss.

But seriously, the idea of using hyper complicated systems is interesting, from a theoretical standpoint. Do I understand correctly that EIGHTS are side-counted? That's baffling, they're one of the most neutral cards out there.
 

jack.jackson

Well-Known Member
EasyRhino said:
An what's with the microsized sessions? Only three hours total? Wuss.

But seriously, the idea of using hyper complicated systems is interesting, from a theoretical standpoint. Do I understand correctly that EIGHTS are side-counted? That's baffling, they're one of the most neutral cards out there.
Hey ez,

The eor for a 8 for betting purposes is virtually zero.

The eor for a 8 for playing purposes is virtually zero.

But in this case(unlike for betting purposes) the 8 neutralizes itself because of frequency of the number of hands we get.

( 12,13)vs(14,15,16)

see the 8 is a equally big card in these hands and since 12 and 13 come up the same as 14,15,16 it will offset itself having and overall effect of zero.

SC this card in singledeck can be a pretty handy weapon.
 

zengrifter

Banned
EasyRhino said:
Do I understand correctly that EIGHTS are side-counted? That's baffling, they're one of the most neutral cards out there.
*s are 'bi-valuate' - meaning that with 12-13 they are small cards and with 14-16 they are big cards - so a multiparameter sidecount will occaisionally reveal times to hit or stand contrary to the primary count. zg
 
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