Vegas games are deteriorating

[SystemsTrader]

I just spend the week in Vegas and am discouraged at how the games have deteriorated over the last year. CSM's and 6-5 single deck have really spread like bad cancer throughout the big casinos. Some of them are unplayable during the weekdays as only CSM's and 6-5 are all that's available. TI and Bellagio are an example of this. 6-5 is even creeping into some of the shoe games on the strip and downtown. The ploppies just don't understand how bad 6-5 is for them and there is certainly no shortage of players on these tables so they aren't going anywhere. Even the MGM properties are replacing many of their 6 deckers with 8 deck H17. It's tough to find good pen on any DD. So the future in Vegas is not looking too bright!

I don't mean this to be a negative post as there still is some very good pen and opportunities available if you know where to look.

 

[Mimosine]

maybe it's time to give up on vegas and go elsewhere.

 

[zengrifter]

Still plenty of games, some requiring larger spreads and BR. zg

 

[jack.jackson]

I just spend the week in Vegas and am discouraged at how the games have deteriorated over the last year. CSM's and 6-5 single deck have really spread like bad cancer throughout the big casinos. Some of them are unplayable during the weekdays as only CSM's and 6-5 are all that's available. TI and Bellagio are an example of this. 6-5 is even creeping into some of the shoe games on the strip and downtown. The ploppies just don't understand how bad 6-5 is for them and there is certainly no shortage of players on these tables so they aren't going anywhere. Even the MGM properties are replacing many of their 6 deckers with 8 deck H17. It's tough to find good pen on any DD. So the future in Vegas is not looking too bright!

I don't mean this to be a negative post as there still is some very good pen and opportunities available if you know where to look.

Thats just sad, really sad :sad: :cry:

 

[ChefJJ]

I just spend the week in Vegas and am discouraged at how the games have deteriorated over the last year. CSM's and 6-5 single deck have really spread like bad cancer throughout the big casinos. Some of them are unplayable during the weekdays as only CSM's and 6-5 are all that's available. TI and Bellagio are an example of this. 6-5 is even creeping into some of the shoe games on the strip and downtown. The ploppies just don't understand how bad 6-5 is for them and there is certainly no shortage of players on these tables so they aren't going anywhere. Even the MGM properties are replacing many of their 6 deckers with 8 deck H17. It's tough to find good pen on any DD. So the future in Vegas is not looking too bright!

I don't mean this to be a negative post as there still is some very good pen and opportunities available if you know where to look.

That is a bummer...heading back out there in 5 weeks. Thanks for the info.

 

[Knox]

Surely the loss rate will get so high, if this continues, that the pendelum will have to swing back at some point?

 

[callipygian]

6:5 shoe blackjack exists because people don't mind playing it so long as there's a hot girl dancing in their faces.