Victoria, this one's especially for you
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Rob McGarvey
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Re: lv , leastwise clark county, *is* the answer...
Glad you are happy there.
Best,
Rob
Glad you are happy there.
Best,
Rob
Stealth Bomber
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Automatic Monkey
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Re: I'm having a much bigger prob than fighting the game & PC's
Well, the last thing I would do is take her to the casino if you are doing some serious play. To outsiders, counting is just another gambler's "system", rooted in fantasy and superstition. Probably all of us here have some special talents when it comes to mathematics, and that's why we even looked twice when we heard about card counting in the first place, and realized right away that it will work and we can do it. Although there a a few exceptions here, math and risk-taking are not traditional female talents.
My girlfriend also is not crazy about it, but I always have a lot of money, always spending on her and buying stuff, so she's figured out that I'm not losing all my money. Even if I were to lose all the money I plan on playing with, no one would know the difference but me. So my advice to you is... if you are playing at a level here the expected up-and-down swings are visible to others given whatever you betting unit/income & asset ratio is, you may want to reduce your stakes. In other words, if you were to lose your bankroll and you don't still have all the money you need to do whatever it is you normally do, pull some out of your bankroll. Blackjack will always be there. Remember I'm the one having angina attacks on losing nights, with the stress and blind rage at losing a hand I should have won.
One time we were at the casino together. Part of my act is losing- ratholing chips all night and then whining about how I'm down. So I had been doing this, and she came to the table when it was time to leave. I colored in and showed her how few chips I had left. She had this sad, I-knew-this-would-happen look as we walked away from the table, holding hands. Then I put her hand in my sweater pocket and she felt all the chips, smiled, and she finally got it. Now she thinks I'm some kind of a con man and not a CG, but I guess that's a step in the right direction.
Well, the last thing I would do is take her to the casino if you are doing some serious play. To outsiders, counting is just another gambler's "system", rooted in fantasy and superstition. Probably all of us here have some special talents when it comes to mathematics, and that's why we even looked twice when we heard about card counting in the first place, and realized right away that it will work and we can do it. Although there a a few exceptions here, math and risk-taking are not traditional female talents.
My girlfriend also is not crazy about it, but I always have a lot of money, always spending on her and buying stuff, so she's figured out that I'm not losing all my money. Even if I were to lose all the money I plan on playing with, no one would know the difference but me. So my advice to you is... if you are playing at a level here the expected up-and-down swings are visible to others given whatever you betting unit/income & asset ratio is, you may want to reduce your stakes. In other words, if you were to lose your bankroll and you don't still have all the money you need to do whatever it is you normally do, pull some out of your bankroll. Blackjack will always be there. Remember I'm the one having angina attacks on losing nights, with the stress and blind rage at losing a hand I should have won.
One time we were at the casino together. Part of my act is losing- ratholing chips all night and then whining about how I'm down. So I had been doing this, and she came to the table when it was time to leave. I colored in and showed her how few chips I had left. She had this sad, I-knew-this-would-happen look as we walked away from the table, holding hands. Then I put her hand in my sweater pocket and she felt all the chips, smiled, and she finally got it. Now she thinks I'm some kind of a con man and not a CG, but I guess that's a step in the right direction.
Stealth Bomber
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Re: I'm having a much bigger prob than fighting the game & PC's
Thanks A.M.. You said:
Then I put her hand in my sweater pocket and she felt all the chips...
That was also my plan with my fiancée. I figured my chances of being ahead after any eight hour session, would be somewhere between 65 - 70%. So I took the chance. But it didn't work. Had it worked, I then planned to educate her first with the ups & downs.
In the beginning, she saw me win some. She wanted to learn to play with me teaching her BS then later to count. However, I was pretty sure that if I didn't get her on board and with the right mindset before I found some bad variance, I would be toast. Now I have a much larger mountain to climb. I have four options:
1) Slowly and methodically work my way out of her perception of me being a compulsive gambling idiot.
2) Gamble heavy and spread heavy in hope of a big payoff. Show her what I did. If I loose, I'm done as long as she and I are together.
3) Try #1 for a while. If it's not working, try #2.
4) Try #1 for a while. If it's not working, try #2. If it's not working, tell her either to live with it or hit the road.
Can you guys believe it? I'm only 41.5 units down for the year. That's only $415. Good thing I back off my unit size when she and I got together.
Thanks A.M.. You said:
Then I put her hand in my sweater pocket and she felt all the chips...
That was also my plan with my fiancée. I figured my chances of being ahead after any eight hour session, would be somewhere between 65 - 70%. So I took the chance. But it didn't work. Had it worked, I then planned to educate her first with the ups & downs.
In the beginning, she saw me win some. She wanted to learn to play with me teaching her BS then later to count. However, I was pretty sure that if I didn't get her on board and with the right mindset before I found some bad variance, I would be toast. Now I have a much larger mountain to climb. I have four options:
1) Slowly and methodically work my way out of her perception of me being a compulsive gambling idiot.
2) Gamble heavy and spread heavy in hope of a big payoff. Show her what I did. If I loose, I'm done as long as she and I are together.
3) Try #1 for a while. If it's not working, try #2.
4) Try #1 for a while. If it's not working, try #2. If it's not working, tell her either to live with it or hit the road.
Can you guys believe it? I'm only 41.5 units down for the year. That's only $415. Good thing I back off my unit size when she and I got together.
Automatic Monkey
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Re: I'm having a much bigger prob than fighting the game & PC's
Well OK, if she's sweating a $400 loss, you're going to have to deal with it differently. See I've never been married and only been counting for 6 months, so I'm qualified to give everyone advice on women and counting.
See women hear the horror stories about CG's and they expect the worst. They know where gambling can lead. Poverty, crime, abuse, violence. They love to scare each other with these stories, and when you try to convince a non-mathematical person of something using mathematics, they only think you are trying to BS them. Who knows, she may have already gone to a Gam-Anon meeting and heard their sermon.
Now a guy in a bowling league easily drops $400 a year but women don't mind that. That's because they know where you are and exactly how far it can go, out there drinking, cussing, and putting your balls in the gutter once a week. So you can treat your BJ like a bowling league, and go only one night a week. Pick a night, not a weekend night, and that is your casino night. Don't bring her. And come home at the same time every time you go out. You can probably get in about 4 hours of play a week at that rate, and if you are playing a $10 game, that's $2K a year EV, about. Next year it can be a $15 game with the added bankroll. But the important thing is to make it regimented, no extra trips, no staying later, and she will realize right away its not a compulsion for you. She can make plans to go out and do her thing on your casino night without feeling like she's neglecting you either. And after a while, she'll be concerned if you don't go to the casino on your assigned night.
My stock went way up on New Year's Eve when we went to the casino together just for enjoyment, and I didn't play. She kept asking me "Don't you want to play blackjack, it's OK." and I told her, "No, I can always play some other time." What CG would say that?
Well OK, if she's sweating a $400 loss, you're going to have to deal with it differently. See I've never been married and only been counting for 6 months, so I'm qualified to give everyone advice on women and counting.
See women hear the horror stories about CG's and they expect the worst. They know where gambling can lead. Poverty, crime, abuse, violence. They love to scare each other with these stories, and when you try to convince a non-mathematical person of something using mathematics, they only think you are trying to BS them. Who knows, she may have already gone to a Gam-Anon meeting and heard their sermon.
Now a guy in a bowling league easily drops $400 a year but women don't mind that. That's because they know where you are and exactly how far it can go, out there drinking, cussing, and putting your balls in the gutter once a week. So you can treat your BJ like a bowling league, and go only one night a week. Pick a night, not a weekend night, and that is your casino night. Don't bring her. And come home at the same time every time you go out. You can probably get in about 4 hours of play a week at that rate, and if you are playing a $10 game, that's $2K a year EV, about. Next year it can be a $15 game with the added bankroll. But the important thing is to make it regimented, no extra trips, no staying later, and she will realize right away its not a compulsion for you. She can make plans to go out and do her thing on your casino night without feeling like she's neglecting you either. And after a while, she'll be concerned if you don't go to the casino on your assigned night.
My stock went way up on New Year's Eve when we went to the casino together just for enjoyment, and I didn't play. She kept asking me "Don't you want to play blackjack, it's OK." and I told her, "No, I can always play some other time." What CG would say that?
Re: I'm having a much bigger prob than fighting the game & PC's
I'm assuming (and hoping) that you were joking with your second sentence about your qualifications to comment. It takes a special spouse to understand that the $5000 their husband (or wife) lost would not have been better spent on a week-long vacation or some other material thing. Part of being married is doing what's best for the two of you, not just one of you. Generally speaking, bowling or some similiar activity is a lot more socially acceptable than gambling. Who cares what others think? When it's your spouse, you should care.
I'm assuming (and hoping) that you were joking with your second sentence about your qualifications to comment. It takes a special spouse to understand that the $5000 their husband (or wife) lost would not have been better spent on a week-long vacation or some other material thing. Part of being married is doing what's best for the two of you, not just one of you. Generally speaking, bowling or some similiar activity is a lot more socially acceptable than gambling. Who cares what others think? When it's your spouse, you should care.
Stealth Bomber
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Re: I'm having a much bigger prob than fighting the game & PC's
I like that. I will keep it perfectly structured like going to work for X hrs 1 day per week. A CG couldn't be that structured. They cannot make it like a business. I can. I will take baby steps at first.
Thanks:
SB
PS I like how you used 'not playing' on New Years to gain you some extra points with your lady. Your not fooling me. CC's don't play on NYE. There are too many ploppies. ;-)
I like that. I will keep it perfectly structured like going to work for X hrs 1 day per week. A CG couldn't be that structured. They cannot make it like a business. I can. I will take baby steps at first.
Thanks:
SB
PS I like how you used 'not playing' on New Years to gain you some extra points with your lady. Your not fooling me. CC's don't play on NYE. There are too many ploppies. ;-)
Stealth Bomber
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When I'm winning, I will make a point to skip my skeduled 'play night'. I'll soon have her encouraging me......ah begging me to go and win some more. Hmmmm, reverse psycology! Works every time.
When I'm winning, I will make a point to skip my skeduled 'play night'. I'll soon have her encouraging me......ah begging me to go and win some more. Hmmmm, reverse psycology! Works every time.