We should all have this problem
- Thread starter 21forme
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Every casino does have a rule which covers this very problem. Usually, what they'll do is to leave all the live hands ON the table, & take the cards from the discard tray, shuffle them, burn a card, and continue play from that point. The reason that the dealer was worried is because he would've probably gotten some flak from his boss, for starting a round without having enough cards to finish. It matters not whether or not it was his fault. Casino dealers are quite often treated like s**t by their superiors.
That would suck if you split something at a high count towards the end, hoping to be able to double down and get some 10's or A's on your split hands, and now you have a fresh deck with no increased chances of getting 10's or A's! Loss of EV if you have a big bet down...
blackjack avenger
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Playing Nice
I agree with both of the previous posts.
:joker::whip:
I agree with both of the previous posts.
:joker::whip:
tensplitter
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There is such a thing as too much penetration, and it is a worse problem than too little penetration. I once had the dealer run out of cards. Full table with half a deck cut off. Lots of small cards come out and a few splits. I got a pair of 8s and split, got another 8 and split again. There were 2 cards left after me, I was at 3rd base. I (correctly) predicted the last card in the shoe was small. The dealer had to hit again but there were no more cards. The pit boss voided the hand and everyone's bets pushed. Then the dealer cut off 1.5 decks from then on.
creeping panther
Banned
Cards
You guys gotta learn that it is never cool to allow a dealer to run out of cards.
If it means you must not hit than don't, if it means you ask others not to or buy their hands do it.
CP
You guys gotta learn that it is never cool to allow a dealer to run out of cards.
If it means you must not hit than don't, if it means you ask others not to or buy their hands do it.
CP
Blue Efficacy
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Can they do that? Just say sorry, dead hand, if you have say 20 vs a dealer 6 because they ran out of cards?
pooptarts92
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I've had this feeling before, being a dealer. There were 3 counters at my table, and I naturally gave them about a half deck cut off. Of course the table ended up filling up so I felt very nervous since I've never run out of cards before. Luckily I didn't I literally had about 15 left so I was ok with that haha.
HockeXpert
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Probably depends on the authority having jurisdiction (ahj). My guess is that any casino regulated by a state gaming commission has rules that force the casino to either recycle or shuffle the discards and continue play normally. I would guess further that in any loosely regulated indian casino would leave the decision up to the pit. After a quick survey of the situation, the pit either calls the hands dead if the house is positioned to lose and continue with the discards if the house stands to win.
Unfortunately, I've never personally had this problem.
I recall reading Uston in MDBJ? that they used to simply pick up the discards and continue dealing
when they ran out of cards in sd and that it happened frequently. That's why they call them the good old days.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
I've had it happen once (in AC of all places) and they shuffled the discards and dealt out the hand, then shuffled again and started a new deal.
If you have a big bet down and a sacrificial hand in I can think of all kinds of ways that would be useful. But CP is right that you want to avoid that, because it's going to attract a PC to the table and the dealer is going to be told to cut off more so it doesn't happen again. There goes your unbelievable pen.
If you have a big bet down and a sacrificial hand in I can think of all kinds of ways that would be useful. But CP is right that you want to avoid that, because it's going to attract a PC to the table and the dealer is going to be told to cut off more so it doesn't happen again. There goes your unbelievable pen.