What did you do to get banned ,trespassed and flyered?

[Jet]

I think it depends on the size of the casino. At large casinos in LV and AC, I have seen APs got away with 40 to 1 spread and $10,000 winnings. But in small casinos, it is likely they back you off when you win over $3,000.

I think $3,000 is the threshold for most casinos. Don't try to win more than $3,000 at the same place in one day. Or come again the next day to face the same crew. Then you will be OK. I won most of the time. But using the discipline, I have never been backed off.

That's great; that's a mindset similar to my own.

Have you given up your ID at any of the casinos that you have never been backed off yet?

 

[HitEmHard]

I am curious as to how much how you are dressed plays into whether or not you're getting noticed for moderate rat-holing (Business clothes vs. typical tourist clothes). I now know that no matter what if you swipe a grand off the table they will know lol

 

[bigplayer]

Where's that PUBLISHED at?????

In your MS Excel spreadsheet.

 

[bigplayer]

Nah, I know exactly why, and it had nothing to do w/ ratholing.

I used to Shuffle Track at the IP in Vegas...very simple one pass shuffle, and after my first big bets (usually off the top of a fresh shoe) the pitboss would order a half-shoe...which actually worked to my advantage...more frequent shuffling meant more off the top big bets and I often played the best half so I never had to play the other bad half of the shoe.

What a place!

 

[comatoseb.j.]

After hearing a few stories about being banned and flyered. I am curious what it took to end up in that situation. I have only been backed of once. I fly under the radar more because of my bankroll dictates than anything else.

What kind of spread did you use and how much did you win at a pop to get flyered, banned or trespassed? How about play modifications for hand match ups? What do you think was the straw that broke the camel's back?

I would say when I was playing at Xxxxx in Xxxxx, a ploppie told me I wasn't ever going to make money at the game because I rarely used basic strategy. My knowledge of deck composition always me to get away with that. Any ways He had my blood boiling after 15 minutes of this ****. It was last year when I started and I had it. I had played more than 24 hours and saw two dealers on there second shift in as many days. I told him That I have already made 13 times what I started with I took the purple and black chips out of my pocket to show him and I had the dealer confirm. I then started telling him that if I was doubling my bets as I doubled my bankroll I would already be a millionaire. He said bull **** so I wrote it down on paper. I was so pissed I didn't care who the **** heard. I told him that if I played like your ass I would have gone bust along time ago like your other 4 vbuddies and just like you are going to in about 3 hours based on your bankroll and average loss rate per $100 bet. BTW 3 HOURS LATER i SEE HIM AT THE GAS STATION GETTING GAS HEADING HOME. hE GAVE ME A DAMN MAN iM SORRY BUT STILL PISSED AT YOUR ASS LOOK. About 5 seconds later. I get the tap. That first ban was something else. Blood pumping ten times faster ten it should heart going a mile a minute. Me trying to get the security and pit to tell every body why I was getting bounced. Saying I was going to have Tshirts made saying winners will be welcome Losers will be banned and I was going to hand them out to all of there casino and hotel guests. Lucky it was a little rinky dink Indian casino out in the middle of no where with no sister casinos in site. That first ban my body felt like it was going down the highway at a million miles an hour and all the sudden I stop with no warning. Great feeling but not really fond of getting the tap. You know it isn't exactly positive e.v. BTW This was at yet another game with multiple payoffs. I think They called it Blackjack Buster or something like that. Anyways. cheers.

 

[comatoseb.j.]

Please make a visit to El Cortez when you go to vegas:laugh:

Okay I heard they have the best games in the country....

For shitty games and easy back-off's and make you bet the table minimum instead of banning you.

 

[comatoseb.j.]

Wow! I got backed off LOSING $3000! (must have been all those off the top big bets!) zg

That does happen some times.

 

[paymypush]

I would say when I was playing at Xxxxx in Xxxxx, a ploppie told me I wasn't ever going to make money at the game because I rarely used basic strategy. My knowledge of deck composition always me to get away with that. Any ways He had my blood boiling after 15 minutes of this ****. It was last year when I started and I had it. I had played more than 24 hours and saw two dealers on there second shift in as many days. I told him That I have already made 13 times what I started with I took the purple and black chips out of my pocket to show him and I had the dealer confirm. I then started telling him that if I was doubling my bets as I doubled my bankroll I would already be a millionaire. He said bull **** so I wrote it down on paper. I was so pissed I didn't care who the **** heard. I told him that if I played like your ass I would have gone bust along time ago like your other 4 vbuddies and just like you are going to in about 3 hours based on your bankroll and average loss rate per $100 bet. BTW 3 HOURS LATER i SEE HIM AT THE GAS STATION GETTING GAS HEADING HOME. hE GAVE ME A DAMN MAN iM SORRY BUT STILL PISSED AT YOUR ASS LOOK. About 5 seconds later. I get the tap. That first ban was something else. Blood pumping ten times faster ten it should heart going a mile a minute. Me trying to get the security and pit to tell every body why I was getting bounced. Saying I was going to have Tshirts made saying winners will be welcome Losers will be banned and I was going to hand them out to all of there casino and hotel guests. Lucky it was a little rinky dink Indian casino out in the middle of no where with no sister casinos in site. That first ban my body felt like it was going down the highway at a million miles an hour and all the sudden I stop with no warning. Great feeling but not really fond of getting the tap. You know it isn't exactly positive e.v. BTW This was at yet another game with multiple payoffs. I think They called it Blackjack Buster or something like that. Anyways. cheers.

I've never gotten the tap at a gas station. Were you spreading from regular to premium?:laugh:

On a serious note, don't mess with Indian casinos. A lot of them have a wild west mentality and things can end badly.

 

[comatoseb.j.]

I've never gotten the tap at a gas station. Were you spreading from regular to premium?:laugh:

On a serious note, don't mess with Indian casinos. A lot of them have a wild west mentality and things can end badly.

oN A SERIOUS NOTE i THINK YOU JUST SENT ME TO THE E.R. i THINK i JUST HAD AND ANURISM f***ing anurisum i WAS LAUGHING SO DAMN HARD.