What percent of your BR do you usually use as a session BR?

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BJLFS

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In other words say you have a $10,000 BR and you go and play somewhere for a day, what percent of that BR do you usually bring along?
 
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BJgenius007

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bjlfs said:
in other words say you have a $10,000 br and you go and play somewhere for a day, what percent of that br do you usually bring along?
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6%. But I will consider calling a day if I lose half of it. The other half of the money is for the condition that you place your last bet happening to be a big bet (extreme high true count) and you need to split, re-split and double down properly. So the actual number is 3% for a day trip.
 
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assume_R

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BJLFS said:
Thanks. Dumb question but, when they say hands do they mean hands dealt to you or the table? I've seen other sites where they mean hands dealt to the table; I think.
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To you. Not sure if it's hands dealt to you, or rounds dealt to you (if you're playing 2 hands), but I'm pretty sure it's "hands dealt to you." qfit can answer better though.
 
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BJLFS

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assume_R said:
To you. Not sure if it's hands dealt to you, or rounds dealt to you (if you're playing 2 hands), but I'm pretty sure it's "hands dealt to you." qfit can answer better though.
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Thanks I will.
 
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BJLFS

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assume_R said:
To you. Not sure if it's hands dealt to you, or rounds dealt to you (if you're playing 2 hands), but I'm pretty sure it's "hands dealt to you." qfit can answer better though.
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Thanks. I just emailed him.
 
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QFIT

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BJLFS said:
Thanks. Dumb question but, when they say hands do they mean hands dealt to you or the table? I've seen other sites where they mean hands dealt to the table; I think.
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Rounds. Any risk related questions work on rounds. I need to make this clearer.
 
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EmeraldCityBJ

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BJLFS said:
In other words say you have a $10,000 BR and you go and play somewhere for a day, what percent of that BR do you usually bring along?
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If I care about having to give up personal info because of a CTR, I bring $9,900 with me. If it's a place I play frequently, I will consider maintaining a chip inventory so I can have an increased session stake before hitting the CTR threshold. If I don't care about a CTR, or if my BR was less than $10k, I'll bring my entire bankroll - or at least as much cash as I can fit into my pockets.

Cash left at home doesn't generate any EV. Having to leave a hot shoe or having to end a session/trip earlier than planned because you ran out of money costs you EV.
 
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paddywhack

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Routinely at least 10%. You just never know what may transpire, what you see to take advantage of, or what unforseen circumstance you may find youself a part of.

That's for a session. Now for an extended (weekend or greater) trip - I try to keep my RoR less than 2% for the hours I'm expecting to play. Nothing worse than hitting a large neg streak at the start and worrying about having the cash to play your game the way you'd planned.
 
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forwhat77

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Paddy brought up a good point..For a single session on a 10k roll 10%. For a weekend session on a 10k roll 25%.

3%??
 
blackjack avenger

blackjack avenger

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Over/Under

With modern banking one could have their entire bank available. However, assuming for the question not possible.

You would rather bring to much then not enough. You don't want to run out of money or have the stress of getting close to running out.
For a day or weekend:
50% of a kelly bank
25% of a half kelly bank.
12.5% of a quarter kelly bank.
For a week:
Double the above. Except bring 75% of a kelly bank, probably one should never have their entire bank on them.

What if you come across a great opportunity and don't have enough funds? or a single great opportunity and lose, then you can jeapordize your whole trip.

Do you play 2 hands? Then you need to bring more $ then you think. The variance of 2 hands for a trip is higher then for 1 hand.

You don't play as well as a sim, so you need more $ to account for human error. So even considering Qfit's fine software, you still should bring more.
What if you play faster or more hands then you planned? Then you would need more funds.

If your expenses are high for a trip, tapping out on trips can prove very costly.

If tapping out on a trip costs you hours of play, that is time you may never make up in trying to chase the long run NO.

Combining all the above is why you should not be shy with trip banks.

Don't like my advice? A least remember this.
A nice rule of thumb moving forward:
If you get within 25% of losing trip roll, bring 10% more next time.
If you get within 10% of losing trip roll, bring 25% more next time.

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aslan

aslan

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I've found that 30% of a $10,000 bankroll makes a good trip roll, one that I don't usually have to replenish while away. The temptation is great, if I bring more, to play to a higher bankroll amount (one that I have not dedicated); so if I bring $10,000, I am tempted to play $25 and $50 mins instead of $10 mins. It seems like the more money in one's pocket, the more insignificant the correct betting mins and maxs seem. Of course here, I am talking to discipline and self-control, which I know none of you have a problem with. :)
 
blackjack avenger

blackjack avenger

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Simple Math, A Third to Half is only 2g

aslan said:
I've found that 30% of a $10,000 bankroll makes a good trip roll, one that I don't usually have to replenish while away.
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So in your experience a third is not enough unless you are able to replenish it? So with 30% you have tapped out or came close to it?

Comparing your 30% recommendation to my 50% recommendation for a 10g bank would only require bringing 2g more.

Obviously your trip bank works for you because you can replenish. My recommendation considers no ability to replenish when away.

How much ammo should one bring to a gunfight?

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blackjack avenger

blackjack avenger

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2g or Not 2g, That is the Question

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Uh,,, since when is 30% of $10,000, $2,000? In my experience, I need to have $3,000 in most cases to avoid going to the Bank of America for more, which is what I mean by replenishing it. I have sometimes carried much larger amounts, but found that it is really not necessary for my purposes.
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You recommend 3g
I recommend 5g
The difference is 2g; not much, just more conservative with regard to trip wipeout.

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good cards
 
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