What percent of your BR do you usually use as a session BR?

[aslan]

You recommend 3g
I recommend 5g
The difference is 2g; not much, just more conservative with regard to trip wipeout.

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You're probably right. I've had a couple close calls, but have never missed a single play in a plus count. But I don't like routinely carrying large sums. There's another kind of wipe out I dread, which some of my gambling friends have faced, and sadly, lost-- one, at the entrance to his own home.

 

[zengrifter]

You recommend 3g
I recommend 5g
The difference is 2g; not much, just more conservative with regard to trip wipeout.

So, Avenger, your BR is $165k and you bring a $5k trip stake?
And Brother Aslan, compared to Genius, you are practically Brett Maverick. z:laugh:g

 

[zengrifter]

So, Genius, your BR is $165k and you bring a $5k trip stake?
And Brother Aslan, compared to Genius, you are practically Brett Maverick. z:laugh:g

Seriously Aslan, you should not be defining your BR as 10k.
Even as a casual hobbyist your BR should be at least 25k w/ 25u. Comp, etc., you know? zg

 

[blackjack avenger]

Thanks for the Compliment

So, Genius, your BR is $165k and you bring a $5k trip stake?
And Brother Aslan, compared to Genius, you are practically Brett Maverick. z:laugh:g

Not the first time I have heard that! :laugh:
Yes, Aslan and I were considering a 10g bank whether to bring 3g or 5g. I think we basically agree 3g works if you have other funds available, if not other funds available 5g may work better.

Now for the $165,000 bank.
to bring for a day or 2 trip:
betting kelly 90g, 165g bet ramp
betting half kelly 45g, 90g bet ramp
betting quarter kelly 25g, 40g bet ramp
consistent with my earlier post

Bringing to much is better then not enough, do you think differently?
&
What is my handle name? I am not a shy player!

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[aslan]

Not the first time I have heard that! :laugh:
Yes, Aslan and I were considering a 10g bank whether to bring 3g or 5g. I think we basically agree 3g works if you have other funds available, if not other funds available 5g may work better.

Now for the $165,000 bank.
to bring for a day or 2 trip:
betting kelly 90g, 165g bet ramp
betting half kelly 45g, 90g bet ramp
betting quarter kelly 25g, 40g bet ramp
consistent with my earlier post

Bringing to much is better then not enough, do you think differently?
&
What is my handle name? I am not a shy player!

:joker::whip:
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If I brought $165k as my trip roll, I would not only feel the need to carry betsy(and maybe even betty lou), but also hire two highly trusted BGs, one to guard me and the other to watch the first one.

 

[blackjack avenger]

Sorry

You're probably right. I've had a couple close calls, but have never missed a single play in a plus count. But I don't like routinely carrying large sums. There's another kind of wipe out I dread, which some of my gambling friends have faced, and sadly, lost-- one, at the entrance to his own home.

Sorry for the loss of your friend. Bank security is another issue. Someone could advertise they have a lot of money on them with 5g. Pulling out all the cash at once, allowing chips to accumulate on the table, bragging etc. While another could be playing large and carrying 100g on them and not be as noticed by taking chips off table, not pulling out lots of cash at one time and keeping a low profile.

I think nothing of pulling large amounts of chips off the table and putting in my pocket. I would not have chips or cash in front of me at a restaurant or bar why would one treat a casino differently. If you think about it a casino is a lot like a bar or club where people around you have lost money gambling.

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[blackjack avenger]

What We Have Here is Failure to Communicate.

The 165k Genius brings $5k on his trip and then bets his max bet ($500?) at +2. He's conservative, you know. zg

Did I write something wrong or did you read something wrong?

Perhaps a more concise way to say it:

Whatever $ bet ramp you are using for the day or 2 trip
bring half the kelly bank for that ramp

I think that covers all bank sizes and fraction of kelly bet? and is consistent with my previous statements.

40g, trip bet ramp bring 20g
5g, trip bet ramp bring 2.5g
10g, trip bet ramp bring 5g

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[zengrifter]

Sorry for the loss of your friend. Bank security is another issue. Someone could advertise they have a lot of money on them with 5g. Pulling out all the cash at once, allowing chips to accumulate on the table, bragging etc. While another could be playing large and carrying 100g on them and not be as noticed by taking chips off table, not pulling out lots of cash at one time and keeping a low profile.

I think nothing of pulling large amounts of chips off the table and putting in my pocket. I would not have chips or cash in front of me at a restaurant or bar why would one treat a casino differently. If you think about it a casino is a lot like a bar or club where people around you have lost money gambling.

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Avenger - I apologize - earlier when I called you Genius - I thought I was responding to BJgenius007, as well as his style of play. I have now had my morning coffee! zg

 

[aslan]

Sorry for the loss of your friend. Bank security is another issue. Someone could advertise they have a lot of money on them with 5g. Pulling out all the cash at once, allowing chips to accumulate on the table, bragging etc. While another could be playing large and carrying 100g on them and not be as noticed by taking chips off table, not pulling out lots of cash at one time and keeping a low profile.

I think nothing of pulling large amounts of chips off the table and putting in my pocket. I would not have chips or cash in front of me at a restaurant or bar why would one treat a casino differently. If you think about it a casino is a lot like a bar or club where people around you have lost money gambling.

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Sorry for the miscommunication, but I didn't lose my friend-- he lost his bankroll. Plus, he picked up a few bumps and bruises. :laugh:

 

[blackjack avenger]

There Does Appear to Be a Failure to Communicate

If I brought $165k as my trip roll, I would not only feel the need to carry betsy(and maybe even betty lou), but also hire two highly trusted BGs, one to guard me and the other to watch the first one.

with a 165g bank
day or 2 trip
betting kelly, with a kelly bet ramp
only:laugh: bring 90g

Now of course in the real world getting 90g bets down won't be the easiest thing in the world. Nor would perhaps betting full kelly be the most prudent decision.

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[blackjack avenger]

I Thought So

Avenger - I apologize - earlier when I called you Genius - I thought I was responding to BJgenius007, as well as his style of play. I have now had my morning coffee! zg

I thought it may have been a chemical issue, I would have never guessed caffeine!:laugh:

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[blackjack avenger]

Perhaps Not

10%

I think most would agree this number is to low without replenisment, there will be many trip failures. There will be failures before reaching the end of shoes, not good at all.

10g bank
if kelly betting
10g bet ramp
10% of this is 1g
There may not be enough money for a max bet multi spl, dbl hand.

Now if you are betting very conservatively, then 10% can work.

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[aslan]

Sorry for the loss of your friend. Bank security is another issue. Someone could advertise they have a lot of money on them with 5g. Pulling out all the cash at once, allowing chips to accumulate on the table, bragging etc. While another could be playing large and carrying 100g on them and not be as noticed by taking chips off table, not pulling out lots of cash at one time and keeping a low profile.

I think nothing of pulling large amounts of chips off the table and putting in my pocket. I would not have chips or cash in front of me at a restaurant or bar why would one treat a casino differently. If you think about it a casino is a lot like a bar or club where people around you have lost money gambling.

:joker::whip:
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Crooks think of casinos as where the money is. You don't have to flash (and shouldn't) to be the random target of a stick-up artist who considers every departure from a casino a potential windfall. You are right to be cautious, however. No need to paint a target on your back.

I have sworn to use the valet services and will no longer deviate from that. With $165k, I will add bulletproof glass. A Las Vegas resident I know, and his girlfriend, got pulled over by a local gang on a Vegas road. What they were after, he was not sure, but he fired several shots from the sun roof and they quickly left. It resulted in jail for breaking his probation when the later ex-girlfriend told police about the affair.

 

[aslan]

I thought it may have been a chemical issue, I would have never guessed caffeine!:laugh:

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Good old-fashioned flashback. Not uncommon with certain acids. I kept wondering why you kept referring to Genius???

 

[aslan]

Seriously Aslan, you should not be defining your BR as 10k.
Even as a casual hobbyist your BR should be at least 25k w/ 25u. Comp, etc., you know? zg

My real life bankroll is a mystery even to me. (and especially to my wife) Do you know, she actually thought I was paying for the new hardwood floors I'm having installed today out of my bankroll? I don't have the foggiest where she got that idea. Nipped that one in the bud in short order. :flame:

 

[zengrifter]

I thought it may have been a chemical issue, I would have never guessed caffeine!:laugh:

Well CannaCoffee, actually. zg

 

[blackjack avenger]

Finally the Truth, and No I Can't Handle It

My real life bankroll is a mystery even to me. (and especially to my wife) Do you know, she actually thought I was paying for the new hardwood floors I'm having installed today out of my bankroll? I don't have the foggiest where she got that idea. Nipped that one in the bud in short order. :flame:

So the sweet little wifey is the greatest threat to one's bank?:laugh:

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[paddywhack]

So the sweet little wifey is the greatest threat to one's bank?:laugh:

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That fact is as old as the hills. I lost more to the ex than I could possibly lose to the casino, even if I didn't count cards.