Why does not varying your bets work?

BrianCP

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moo321 said:
This could be a good time to set up an incident, too, especially if there are no cameras and there are onlookers. "Please let me go!" Followed by walking into the guard, followed by grabbing face and screaming "Stop hitting me! Oh my God, why are you hitting me! Call the police!"
Just pull an Edward Norton in fight club, beat yourself up and when observers show up it looks (and sounded like) the guy was trying to beat the life out of you. :laugh:
 

bjcardcounter

Well-Known Member
ArcticInferno said:
I was chased out into the parking lot at Sands in Bethlehem PA by the head of the
security.
So in PA, they can back you off for counting cards? I have not heard from other PA players.
 
Arctic

ArcticInferno said:
You're right. Ian Anderson describes the "black art" of blackjack, rather than the
technical aspects.
Anderson correctly states that a sharp technical proficiency is useless if there’s no
place to apply your trade.

I was chased out into the parking lot at Sands in Bethlehem PA by the head of the
security. She shouted “Give me your drivers license, now!” as bystander stared and
wondered what I could’ve done. As she followed me, she shouted “We have your photo.
You can’t come back here!” In the garage, one of the security guards stood in front of
my car to prevent me from leaving, so that she can read off my license plate into the
walkie talkie.
I had won about $7k in the high limit room that day. I can never return to Sands,
so was it worth it?
Clearly inexperienced rookies.:rolleyes:

CP
 
Arctic

ArcticInferno said:
Ian Anderson (p. 209) describes a technique where you don’t vary your bets at all.
You start out with two enormous bets and continue to play until the TC drops below -1, at which point you pull out.
I guess you can consider pulling out as dropping your bet to zero, which is sort of like varying your bets.
But my point is,... why does such technique even work? What’s the logical explanation?
If such bold technique works, then how about doubling your bets at TC of +1?
You would start out with two bets and pull out at TC of -1, and double the bets at TC of +1.
In theory, such technique should work better. Right?
The casino would see someone always playing two hands and intermittently doubling the bets.
Surely, they wouldn’t suspect anything,...
If such strategy works, then why do we need 1:4 or 1:8 bet spreads?
I’m very tempted to try such technique, but I would like some input from the veterans before I embark on such uncharted territories.
Thre are alot of ways to beat the game, you really need to start thinking for yourself as to approaches, because I doubt anyone is going to hold your hand as to how to go about the various avenues.

It is good however that you do appear to be ready to begin the process.:cool:

CP

CP
 

blackjack avenger

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Never Say Never Again

ArcticInferno said:
I was chased out into the parking lot at Sands in Bethlehem PA by the head of the
security. She shouted “Give me your drivers license, now!” as bystander stared and
wondered what I could’ve done. As she followed me, she shouted “We have your photo.
You can’t come back here!” In the garage, one of the security guards stood in front of
my car to prevent me from leaving, so that she can read off my license plate into the
walkie talkie.
I had won about $7k in the high limit room that day. I can never return to Sands,
so was it worth it?
Your joking right? Was it worth it? Almost certainly yes! Although, what happened was not good.

good cards
:joker::whip:

Would you rather have lost 7g but be welcomed back?
 

beyondbj

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stop betting for all tc -1

that means u have to always sitting there dont bet any

do u think this still will arise the attention of casino ?? at least they think u are occupied a seat making them lost other business or thinking u are cheating some scores for the member card ,

i know someone is barred for occupied seat too often but not for counting
 

alwayssplitaces

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For the person backed off at Sands for winning $7k, you should have run into a restaurant off the property and eaten a meal there for about an hour. Or taken a taxi home and return the next day to get your car. Or you could meet someone at a store or restaurant, and pay them $20 to drive you to your car in Sands (explaining your story that you're a card counter who needs to remain anonymous), have them drop you off as close to your car in the garage as they can get, immediately run with your face down, wearing a different layer of clothing on the outside, and drive away. They won't bother chasing you beyond the property line just for counting, heck, the Bellagio Bandit got away and they didn't follow him off the property.

I remember when I was backed off at Parx for winning a modest $1k, I went to the Applebees next door and had lunch there just so they wouldn't be able to trace my license plate by following me to my car on the camera. I returned from Applebees to my car an hour later wearing a t shirt in the middle of January. But I wasn't chased out by security like you were, I was just politely backed off. I'm sure if I were chased out by security I'd run to a place much further and buy a ride back to my car.

Don't play in eastern Pennsylvania or AC for at least a month, and don't return to Sands for 6 months. Come back with a fake ID 6 months later and get a player's card with it. And if you drive, park in a nearby place or if you have to park at Sands, park near the edge of the lot.

The reason I didn't want Parx finding out my identity is so that my name wouldn't be fliered to other casinos, specifically the Harrah's chain since I was going to Vegas soon after and didn't want to be blacklisted at Harrah's where I had a comped room. And my name is good everywhere else. I plan to play blackjack for years to come, so I want my name to remain good as long as possible, especially when I increase my bankroll to the next level.
 
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