Why I hate when dealers keep their own tips.

[moo321]

I heard from a dealer on a recent trip that it's actually the IRS that is forcing the move to pooled tips, so that they are reported. He said the IRS came in to their casino and told them every dealer would be audited if they didn't pool tips.

 

[takinfromindians97]

Let them keep there own

I can say that i myself loe when i get a happy dealer who is giddy and likes to see people win, i cant stand the dealers who are so glum and just stand there miserable. I actually am a jerk to those dealers, i figure why should i be nice to someone treating me like **** i dont care if they are dealing me cards or wiping my ass you disrespect me and i send it right on back at you. Then on the other hand someone who is very pleasent and is happy when you win sorry when you dont, I like to see that person get more tips then the jerk the next table over. So i personally like it when dealers keep there tips, a place in Mississippi let the dealers keep there tips, they walk around with there little toke boxes and it works out great. I think it makes the dealers want to be mor epleasent and acomodating which can lead to tipping for better pen in some cases. I ended up playing this place more then any other in Miss when I was there for a week last month. That is just my opinion, everyone is entilted to there own and i would never speek down on someone elses opinion.

 

[non-self-weighter]

The dealer standing at the next table was bored AND going to be broke for the day.

Tip her if that is your prerogative.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

Tip her if that is your prerogative.

LOL @ missing the point

 

[non-self-weighter]

I'm sorry, what is your point?

You want casinos to do as you wish?

You want other players to do as you wish?

You want dealers to do as you wish?

You want to argue about semantics?

You want to complain about your choice of non-perfect playing conditions?

 

[Blue Efficacy]

I'm sorry, what is your point?

You want casinos to do as you wish?

You want other players to do as you wish?

You want dealers to do as you wish?

You want to argue about semantics?

You want to complain about your choice of non-perfect playing conditions?

Why would I want to tip a dealer at a dead table when I don't like tipping in general?

 

[daddybo]

Tipping is Good

Without going into why tipping is often good for the player and the dealer... and I'm sure that some of u guys probably know. I'l say this...

Properly tipping the "Proper Dealer" can be good for your edge.

 

[EasyRhino]

Blue, if you're feeling sour grapes over dealer tokes, what about other jobs where the pay doesn't seem commensurate with the skill (e.g. investment bank CEO)? What's sad to me about the giddy dealer was that she was so excited over $40. Must not have been a high roller joint.

A couple of times I've actually had dealers involuntarily gasping at close wins or losses, without there being a toke on the table, it's kind of fun when they get wrapped up in the game as well.

I bet for a dealer yesterday, and THE RAT BASTARD BASICALLY CALLED ME A CHEAPSKATE BECAUSE I DIDN'T TOKE ON THE DOUBLEDOWN BET.

Well, that's obviously when it's the ideal time to suggest that he take the toke and cram it up his ass.

 

[Martin Gayle]

I bet for a dealer yesterday, and THE RAT BASTARD BASICALLY CALLED ME A CHEAPSKATE BECAUSE I DIDN'T TOKE ON THE DOUBLEDOWN BET.

Just curious as to why you had a toke bet out there? What exactly did he say to you when you didn't double the toke bet?

Sometimes the amount of a toke is insulting. It is better not to toke than to toke a strange amount. For example, if you have a $40 dinner bill leaving 10cents is very insulting unless the service was terrible. A 10c tip will make you look worse than not tipping at all. Likewise, if you are playing black and are tipping half-dollars some dealers might find it insulting.

 

[jackpine]

I have never tipped. I see it happening, but never have won enough to think they needed a tip. A tip is for good service. The last table I played at, the dealer was so big(fat) she couldn't reach over far enough to grab my bet when I lost so I kept inching the chips towards me each time just to see her grunt and reach. If I won, the next hand I put the chips closer to her. She didn't like me.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

Just curious as to why you had a toke bet out there? What exactly did he say to you when you didn't double the toke bet?

Sometimes the amount of a toke is insulting. It is better not to toke than to toke a strange amount. For example, if you have a $40 dinner bill leaving 10cents is very insulting unless the service was terrible. A 10c tip will make you look worse than not tipping at all. Likewise, if you are playing black and are tipping half-dollars some dealers might find it insulting.

Why did I have a toke bet out there? Good question, I have no good answer!

He said "too cheap to tip on the double, huh?" in a voice where he was trying to sound like he was joking but he really wasn't. I think it was a pink chip, which was foolishly generous on my part and certainly not insulting to him. It could have been a white chip, I don't remember perfectly. But I am pretty sure it was pink.

I came quite close to talking to the PC about it, but decided the attention drawn wouldn't be worth it.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

Blue, if you're feeling sour grapes over dealer tokes, what about other jobs where the pay doesn't seem commensurate with the skill (e.g. investment bank CEO)?

I assure you I despise those criminals much, much more than blackjack dealers. But that is for another forum

 

[creeping panther]

Tipping

I was playing a poor blackjack game briefly today at a place where they keep their own, just to see if conditions improved (and they have, marginally.) and i happened to be at a table with a george.

The dealer was so obviously giddy and excited it was nauseating. In the 20 minutes I was there she made probably $40.

This is why I agree with pooling tips. Otherwise it's all luck of the draw as far as getting a player who is foolishly loose with their money.

The dealer standing at the next table was bored AND going to be broke for the day.

Also, for some reason, I feel more comfortable giving tips when i am not directly giving them to that dealer.

Personally, I rarely, not never, tip. The smaller/dumpier the store, the more likely I will toke the dealer.

Tipping can be an AP move. If the dealer is nice, or I want to get them on my side, I almost always place a tip when I make my swings, you would be amazed what it can, will lead to.

Tipping can be a good thing when used in a predatory fashion, as all should be when at the table.

CP

 

[ihate17]

One more nice thing about dealers who go for their own

If you are playing at a go for their own joint and you tend to toke but the dealer is an ass, then not toking has an effect on his bottom line. At a pooled place, the same dealer knows that other dealers will pick up his slack.

I have had a few instances where a dealer angered me and I wanted to extract a bit of revenge on their pockets. It can not be really done in a pooled place.

ihate17

 

[Cardcounter]

$40 bucks in twenty minutes? What is the big deal about that I would have an hour almost every night where I would drop a $100 dealing. I saw one dealer once drop $3,000 in the tip pool in one hour the tips where shared and every dealer walked with $2,092 in cash the next day when we picked up are tokes from that night every dealer was estastic. Yeah $40 in twenty minutes might be above average but it is not spectacular.