Woo hoo! I got my first backoff!

[zengrifter]

LOL.

Or you could have yelled out "I have a condition where my shoulder is sensitive to touch and causes extreme pain!!" and start writhing and groaning on the floor in pain. +EV!

Simply getting backroomed is +EV nowadays, thanks to Stalker and ExCAA. zg

 

[suicyco maniac]

What is the casinos supposed to say to him if he asks why they kicked you out..."His play was undesirable, but don't worry you're play is still good, keep playing". Many times, the casino might assume you two are good friends, and if they kick you out they are going to lose the other guys play.

They can say "He's a cheat/ shot taker/ money launderer/ self excluded/ whatever they feel like saying" and the plops will eat it up. This is from personal experience.

You should feel less nervous about getting back than casino personnel feel about doing it.

For the most part this is true but after a few times of being roughed up and backroomed it becomes a bit tougher to keep that attitude. I think LVbear said it best. Casino employees are to be treated like wild animals. You can never be quite sure how they will react.

 

[paddywhack]

what was your bet range?

$5 to 2 X $25.

Actually it was H17, no surrender, BJ 3:2.

Backed off spreading 1@$5 to 2@$25 on an 8 deck shoe eh. I cannot fathom a sweatshop that bad......Thank God!

 

[arrando]

:laugh:

$5 to 2 X $25.

Again, why are you not spreading more? Are you wonging out aggressively? And also, why are you playing this game? Its awful. Twin pines is closer and, by cbjn, much better. The casino must be pretty dumb to think that you are beating their sh it ty game with that spread.

 

[snorky]

I was somewhat flattered and felt accomplished after my 1st backoff this June. After my 4th backoff lately, I felt shattered. Longevity seems impossible.

 

[BJLFS]

Again, why are you not spreading more? Are you wonging out aggressively? And also, why are you playing this game? Its awful. Twin pines is closer and, by cbjn, much better. The casino must be pretty dumb to think that you are beating their sh it ty game with that spread.

Because I would've gotten the boot sooner. Also I didn't say where the casino was.

 

[paddywhack]

Twin pines is closer and, by cbjn, much better. The casino must be pretty dumb to think that you are beating their sh it ty game with that spread.

I didn't say where the casino was.

Obviously you've posted enough info that arrando knows where you play......

 

[BJLFS]

Obviously you've posted enough info that arrando knows where you play......

But that's not where I got the boot from.

 

[arrando]

But you can't beat the game that way. Even if you were going to get the boot sooner, you'd be better off not playing the game at all. That way, you'd never get the boot. Your spread is even less than 1-10 and that won't cut it at all on 8 deck with bad rules, nevermind 8 deck with good rules. I just don't get why you play those to begin with, because you are basically playing a losing game or one that nets you I know you didn't say the casino, but I just assumed. Did I assume right?

Just taking a look at the income calculator on bjstats.com, I input the rules you gave with a $5000 bank (allowing 50 max bet for reasonable ror), a 1-9 spread, good penetration (which means around 80 something%), and ko preferred (i don't know what count you use). It spits out a win rate of $2.50 an hour. I could make more on the farm as an illegal immigrant AND without the added variance and the casino atmosphere of degenerates and second hand smoke.

 

[BJLFS]

But you can't beat the game that way. Even if you were going to get the boot sooner, you'd be better off not playing the game at all. That way, you'd never get the boot. Your spread is even less than 1-10 and that won't cut it at all on 8 deck with bad rules, nevermind 8 deck with good rules. I just don't get why you play those to begin with, because you are basically playing a losing game or one that nets you I know you didn't say the casino, but I just assumed. Did I assume right?

Just taking a look at the income calculator on bjstats.com, I input the rules you gave with a $5000 bank (allowing 50 max bet for reasonable ror), a 1-9 spread, good penetration (which means around 80 something%), and ko preferred (i don't know what count you use). It spits out a win rate of $2.50 an hour. I could make more on the farm as an illegal immigrant AND without the added variance and the casino atmosphere of degenerates and second hand smoke.

On CVCX earn a lot more than that.

BTW check your PM.

 

[arrando]

On CVCX earn a lot more than that.

BTW check your PM.

Then you are putting something in wrong on CVCX because this is where the calculator gets its data from. Are you wonging in or out at all?

 

[bj bob]

Were you that Elvis in the HL room? Funny sh*t!
I caught Ian Anderson playing at Harrahs Reno HL in 2000: 1D 10/11, spreading 3x200 to 3x800 with deep pene.
He looked like an aging 1960s London swinger - dutch boy haircut and ruffled cuffs - British accent - sort of an Austin Powers mojo thang. zg

Didn't I see you there dressed like Tim Leary spreading 1-10 on SD and selling vegetation on Va. Street?

 

[RorySF]

PM sent.

 

[bigplayer]

They were polite and it was real easy.

More in a moment.

It's no big deal...it is inevitable if you are playing a winning game. Most are usually polite, occasionally their feelings are hurt and they are not polite. Don't sweat it.

Contrary to some advice here, if you are well known I'd suggest staying out of there for a long long time...maybe as long as a few years. There are other casinos to play at. If you go back too soon you run the risk of being trespassed and having your photo sent around the country or at least your region (depending on the casino).

As they say, it's just a business decision. They don't like your style of play...don't take it personally. Just move onto the next target.

 

[BJLFS]

It's no big deal...it is inevitable if you are playing a winning game. Most are usually polite, occasionally their feelings are hurt and they are not polite. Don't sweat it.

Contrary to some advice here, if you are well known I'd suggest staying out of there for a long long time...maybe as long as a few years. There are other casinos to play at. If you go back too soon you run the risk of being trespassed and having your photo sent around the country or at least your region (depending on the casino).

As they say, it's just a business decision. They don't like your style of play...don't take it personally. Just move onto the next target.

Thanks BP!