What is the EV in this scenario?BUZZARD said:I would play a 10 deck shoe if they let them hit their soft 18.
It's actually not much different than H17. There was a thread on this years ago at bj21.tribute said:What is the EV in this scenario?
What he said.Sonny said:I wouldn't quit, but I would quit straight counting.
-Sonny-
Less shuffle time, discourages AP, and slightly higher house edge are all valid reasons for the proliferation for 8 deck games. And realistically, is there much different in normal players' perception of 6 vs 8 decks?tribute said:Why does a casino offer an eight deck game? Is it to discourage AP's? Does the casino simply want to increase their already built-in house advantage? Why don't they offer ten decks? If the casino is paranoid about blackjack, why offer it at all? Profits are much bigger on slots, roulette, and craps.
Kewl,kewljason said:I played those games for a few years, so my answer is no. I can live (literally..:laugh with the small edge. Bump your spread and ramp up to compensate and wong very aggressively.
Since I play it all, I am the one yelling at AP that they interrupt the flow of a good shoe although I know they are just wonging.Thunder said:Kewl,
Of course the game is still beatable but to beat it, yeah you're going to have wong pretty aggressively or have a huge spread. Waiting for +2 TC all day is not my idea of fun and well as you know wonging has become even harder as they really pack the tables now. I actually got yelled at by players at the table the last time when I was wonging, as they claimed I was messing up the flow! This of course brought me unwanted attention so there are some additional risks with wonging.
I'm surprised at you, Thunder. A players opinions about the flow of cards has absolutely no bearing on me. If the casino rules allow mid shoe entry and I want in, I get in. Yes, tables are really packed in the east. Head west young man. :laugh:Thunder said:Kewl,
Of course the game is still beatable but to beat it, yeah you're going to have wong pretty aggressively or have a huge spread. Waiting for +2 TC all day is not my idea of fun and well as you know wonging has become even harder as they really pack the tables now. I actually got yelled at by players at the table the last time when I was wonging, as they claimed I was messing up the flow! This of course brought me unwanted attention so there are some additional risks with wonging.
Kewl, I think you misunderstood. It doesn't have any bearing on me when ploppies complain about me messing up their flow either except when the pitboss becomes involved. I actually had a pitboss restrict me from wonging (both wonging in and out). Sure I could have picked a fight but that wasn't going to help.kewljason said:I'm surprised at you, Thunder. A players opinions about the flow of cards has absolutely no bearing on me. If the casino rules allow mid shoe entry and I want in, I get in. Yes, tables are really packed in the east. Head west young man. :laugh:
The term 'wonging' does not always refer to entering mid shoe. Playing off the top and exiting at predetermined negative count is 'wonging out'. Not quite as effective as only playing positive counts, but far better than playing all.
I didn't know Teddy Roosevelt originally followed that advice to play blackjack! History is crazy.kewljason said:Head west young man. :laugh: