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The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Re: I would like to hear The Mayor's answer...

Please send me your name, address, and a high quality .gif portrait. :cool:

In my one converstaion about this with the consulting group, I stated in no uncertain terms, that under no circumstances would I be involved in any activities that would identify advantage players.

I have still not decided on this position, but given the great posts here, I'll tell you I am leaning strongly against it.

--Mayor
 

Stealth Bomber

Well-Known Member
The Mayor's answer is well appreciated

I stated in no uncertain terms, that under no circumstances would I be involved in any activities that would identify advantage players.

Thank you.
 

Stealth Bomber

Well-Known Member
Support The Mayor - Help Our Community

I think the Mayor is becoming a little restless and wants to spread his wings and try some different opportunities. Giving away free info gets old for anyone eventually. Take a look at his resume.

We need to start thinking and suggesting ways for the Mayor to generate some extra $ through this site or otherwise. More money in his pocket wouldn't hurt and might keep him from going astray. However, if they keep chasing him with bigger and bigger offers, he will go. Money is power. People who have enough of it can buy anything.
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Re: Support The Mayor - Help Our Community

Hmmm.... maybe I should run for elected office :cool:

Right now I have a job teaching Computer Science. It pays well, but I have been a teacher for 21 years now. I am growing very tired of the age bracket 18-22.

My window is about 2 more years, and then I'll need to do something else. I am restless. You got it. In searching for that next thing, I am opening myself up to the opportunities that come my way, hence this thread. But, this one doesn't look like the thing. The posters here have been VERY persuasive.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

--Mayor
 

Inskipp

Member
Re: Support The Mayor - Help Our Community

You already know how to teach. You already know how to AP. Why not earn some money teaching APs? I'd sign up yesterday!
 

Stealth Bomber

Well-Known Member
Let's make some money!

Get enough people through special marketing campaigns to join an organization at $20 per mo. through automatic withdrawal. They will each have a card. Give it a catchy name like; "Party Club", "Club Entertainment" or CLUB 'E' . As the membership base grows, more and more casinos and other vendors will come on line and cater to the club members. In the beginning, members will be provided with extra front of the line V.I.P. services, reduced rates on rooms, meals, entertainment, products, better comps. There will not be a need to carry 20 different player cards for 20 different casinos any more. The vendors will be elated. When they run their card, it will tell them a lot of info + spending habits.

Anyone who is a member can refer other people to the membership. A sponsorship. It's all done with member numbers and SSN's. As people are entered into the member/sponsorship computer, their respective numbers go into a forced matrix multi-level structure. Hmmmmm, ......... talk about making money through duplication. This beats all. When ever a member/sponsor has $50 credited to their #, the computer will generate a check for them. For every $20 that goes in, $10 is paid out to the matrix down-line.

So, who beside myself would like to be at the top of the multi-level matrix for the Club "E" membership base? How many of you would like to be earning just $.25 on tens of thousands of people automatically every month? Oh yes, it continues to keep compounding as more people jump on. Now there's some math for The Mayor.

Later, all members will be provided with access to the latest info on the best and worst casinos, which games NOT to play and why together with other educational info.

Stealth B.
 
Mayor lets cut the crap. Either you'll do it or you won't. I've seen better men than you sell their souls. For fame (fleeting), prestige (ego?), money (how much is enough), to feel important (self worth, self esteem). Some do it or threaten to do it out of revenge, spite or to see how many people try to talk them out of it. It makes people feel good to be wanted.
So do it or don't. But make a decision take a stand, right or wrong. Just remember this do you want to be the next "Howard Grossman"? I hardly ever post here, this is the second time I think. There is some nice reading here, informative. Mayor you've publicly taken a stand to the point that every pit & surveillance room in the western hemisphere has your picture. If you can't play anymore your probably thinking why not some money off the deal. Just as you tried to help them at Chumash, in the end you'll lose the respect of both sides. Nice photo on the home page, is it from ***********e or T*******. I've seen it before. Nice "crop" job on the picture though.
JWP
 

Slowhand

Member
Re: Cellini

I concur with Toddler completely. I have also had past dealings with Cellini and trust him completely. He knows who I am, and has proven himself of the utmost integrity. There are indeed very valid reasons for his departure, and we should all wish him well.
Slowhand
 

toddler

Well-Known Member
Re: Cellini

Slowhand,

Not to sidetrack the Mayor's thread, but Cellini has always spoken well of you. Can't wait for a spin on his Big Six Wheel. {:) Good thoughts abound.

Warmest,
toddler
 

ZOD

Well-Known Member
Re: Let's make some money!

Stealth,

Sweet! I've already got 15 friends ready to sign up. This could be big. I'm talkin' internet big. Maybe even sliced bread big. If I get in fast enough, do you think I could get a pink car to drive?

Best...

ZOD
 

Stealth Bomber

Well-Known Member
Re: Let's make some money!

ZOD, I'm not completely sure if you're just being facetious or if you're being serious.

I am dead serious about this. In fact, if we decide to do something about it, we shouldn't even talk about it on the board 'til all is up and running. Network marketing a non tangible membership is a very hot set-up for making money. It rocks big time once the ball starts to roll. Multi-level network marketing coupled with a much needed non tangible membership is the perfect combo.

Now, who's in and who's gonna watch before they also jump in later? I got dibs on sponsoring The Mayor. :) See how crazy it can get?

The way to do it may be to start a corporation. A group of us business heads will join together, organize it, create the base and then start selling and sponsoring. For a small initial investment, no other business has the potential of network marketing.

Anybody have their wheels turning yet?
 

ZOD

Well-Known Member
Re: Let's make some money!

Stealth,

I was joking, but not intending to belittle your idea. Don't take offense. I agree about the potential of network marketing, and your idea sounds intriguing, but I'm not a "business head." I would have to leave the setup to you smart guys.

Best...

ZOD
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
Re: Let's make some money!

I am not interested in supporting this type of money making endeavor in any way.

But, best of luck to you.

--Mayor
 

Radar

Active Member
You know, that is what I thought you ...

was going to say.

Wish you well in whatever decision you make.
 

Double21

New Member
Mayor you are asking if there is a chance of convincing casinos to offer better games and tolerate counters more than many do today. For years I have argued that all the major casinos now (and many of the smaller ones) are managed by competent people who are trying to maximize profits for their companies--virtually all of which are publicly owned.

My answer to your question is a definite yes--you can influence them. But to do that you need a solid business plan which convincely shows your casino can make more money implementing the changes you propose than what they are doing today. This can't be "arm waving" or conclusions based on intuition or opinion. You need solid evidence. There are many variables involved in trying to make a case better games can be more profitably offered so this is a tough job. I certainly think this approach is better than just attacking casinos for the poor games offered now. Good luck---remember this is a business decision for casinos and nothing more.
 

Stealth Bomber

Well-Known Member
Your thoughts are welcomed

Maybe we need a new type of casino. Somebody needs to start a casino with low overhead. It makes a small profit on a large amount of people. Costco or Home Depot style. Designed just for players. Nothing is very fancy or plushy. Even the floor is concrete. Basic lighting. People would come to it if it was located properly and marketed correctly.

Don't mind me. I dream a lot. I'm an inventor type.
 

deZerTomB

Active Member
Re: Your thoughts are welcomed

castaways may be available soon, if this groups financing falls through.

(Dead link: http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Mar-16-Tue-2004/business/23442746.html)
 

gehrig

Well-Known Member
if as an employee, you withheld pertinent...

information, you would be less than honorable.

this is exactly analogous to competitive joints hiring one another's casino hosts. it's obvious that those hosts are expected to bring along their "book". that's applicable to any sales business...the new salesman is expected to divert former customers to the new employer's venue.

attendees/contributors to a website, "registered" (whatever that entails), in particular, might be concerned that their i.d.'s be merged with a casino licensee's database.

were i to join a new business, i'd feel obligated to furnish my experience and knowledge to the venture. certain businesses have a track record of hiring staff, wringing them out of their "book"/existing "customer" base, and discarding them. a friend and most successful competitor in an earlier business, used to hire 10 people when he needed only a few. they would soon sort themselves out, usually after at least selling all their family members and friends.

were i to be in a position to hire game protection, game development staff for the casino industry, obviously i'd first look at those "competitors". surely they'd be sources for competitors' inside information. recall that the first surveillance "agents", during the days of the catwalks/one way mirrors, were previous grifters.

same with retail theft. if you could find an experienced shoplifter/"booster" who was now honest...who better to watch the cameras for "moves" ?

i'd like to meet up with one of those early (1950's) casino surveillance "agents". perhaps the day will come. one question will be if they ever spotted one of their old cronies making a move on a game they were protecting.
 
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