Zen Original

[zengrifter]

Nevertheless, I still plan on switching to either ZEN or AOII. Can someone link me to another discussion or explain which outperforms which, specifically in a 6D shoe game?

There are variables and debates.
I recommend either ZEN (original) or Mentor. zg

 

[Daggers]

would knowing the number of decks being used and then memorizing the cards that are dealt be better than the other counting systems? because then you would know how many of each card is left in the deck and calculate the percentage of a certain card coming out.

 

[QFIT]

Nevertheless, I still plan on switching to either ZEN or AOII. Can someone link me to another discussion or explain which outperforms which, specifically in a 6D shoe game?

See Modern Blackjack pages 188-195 for 40,000 weighted sims.

 

[zengrifter]

All good information to hear, but you may be mistaken about TKO. It's actually fairly simple to learn if you are already a talented KO Full user. TKO is somewhat more precise, and actually fixes the problem you have addressed with KO about underbetting at the beginning of the shoe.

Not entirely because the imbalance still skews the TC ... BUT TKO will outperform HiLO, nonetheless... as would TUBZ (TC UBZ) outperform ZEN. zg

 

[johnnyb]

See Modern Blackjack pages 188-195 for 40,000 weighted sims.

Thanks a bunch. I'm suprised Hi-Opt II performs this well Qfit. Why don't a lot of people use this if it can perform this well. It was riding the line at 100% on shoe and pitch through most penetrations. From this information, would you say this is the best shoe counting system? I'm not worried about learning multi-level counts and the difficulty, that's not an issue.

Can anyone explain why Hi-Opt II does this well? I'm not too farmiliar with it, are there any sidecounts? I'm trying to gather as much information as possible so I can make the best choice on which system I'd like to use.

 

[johnnyb]

There are variables and debates.
I recommend either ZEN (original) or Mentor. zg

ZG, what do you think about Hi-Opt II? It receives the highest super-score on Qfit's 6D simulation. Why would you prefer Zen or Mentor rather than Hi-Opt II? Just asking out of curiosity.

 

[Severity8]

Curious

Not entirely because the imbalance still skews the TC ... BUT TKO will outperform HiLO, nonetheless... as would TUBZ (TC UBZ) outperform ZEN. zg

ZG. TCUBZII out performs Zen? In what ways i'm curious I was under the impression that none of the unbalanced counts were very comparable to the level twos. Thank ya sir.

Sev~

 

[zengrifter]

would knowing the number of decks being used and then memorizing the cards that are dealt be better than the other counting systems? because then you would know how many of each card is left in the deck and calculate the percentage of a certain card coming out.

No

 

[zengrifter]

ZG, what do you think about Hi-Opt II? It receives the highest super-score on Qfit's 6D simulation. Why would you prefer Zen or Mentor rather than Hi-Opt II? Just asking out of curiosity.

HO2 will not perform as well as sims indicate because human simplistic ace count density per 1/4D is not accurate enough. So the sims are misleading and the result is you work harder to get the same result as ZEN/Mentor will provide WITHOUT side-count. Practitioners who believe that they have mastered the side count of 1/4D Ace richness and acheive great results are slightly deluded. zg

 

[zengrifter]

ZG. TCUBZII out performs Zen? In what ways i'm curious I was under the impression that none of the unbalanced counts were very comparable to the level twos. Thank ya sir.

We are speaking of TRUE-COUNTED unbalanced hybrid. Thats different. zg

 

[21gunsalute]

would knowing the number of decks being used and then memorizing the cards that are dealt be better than the other counting systems? because then you would know how many of each card is left in the deck and calculate the percentage of a certain card coming out.

Uh, good luck with that, Rainman!

 

[Severity8]

We are speaking of TRUE-COUNTED unbalanced hybrid. Thats different. zg

Like TKO? Using a similar chart style or some division on the fly?