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zengrifter

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iCountNTrack said:
Ignorance is really man's greatest enemy.
blackchipjim said:
Don't worry ZG resistience is futile and you will be assimilated.
Forsooth!

"Ignorance was the greatest sin," "the "root cause of error," the "arch-enemy," the "true enemy,"
the "fog," the "supreme disease," the "great poison," the "root of ill-health," and "first cause of blindness."

--Paramahansa Yogananda


ZG's greatest enemy - himself?
 
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aslan

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Let's get on with it.

No one has to join here. No one has to stay here. I like the site, and as much as I don't like being told what I can say and what I cannot say, I can live with the moderation. I am indebted to site members for practically everything I know about the game of blackjack. Members know what they have to do to toe the line. It's an individual responsibility. So let's get on with it.
 

QFIT

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creeping panther said:
I would like to comment that the legendary "Parker" had a MO of screening every post before it was placed and trashing what he didn't like, thus making the site such a ghost town that DS even left it to go back to Wongs site,,,which is, imho, very similar to this site as to bannings etc.
This is simply false.

creeping panther said:
Now as to the Fight Club, every site should have one.:cool::grin:
Arnold should be deeply ashamed for the Fight CLub. It was specifically designed to harm people and destroy organizations, in violation of federal law and any concept of decency. Fortunately, nearly everyone in the BJ field came to see the gross hatred behind that site and left.
 
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QFIT said:
This is simply false.



Arnold should be deeply ashamed for the Fight CLub. It was specifically designed to harm people and destroy organizations, in violation of federal law and any concept of decency. Fortunately, nearly everyone in the BJ field came to see the gross hatred behind that site and left.


I stand by my statement on Parker, probably the main reason for that sites dismal failure.

Please name the federal law Arnold broke.:confused:

I believe you may view Arnold as some type of Ninja Assassin? (Or possibly an Assange:eek:):laugh:

The Fight Club allowed those who wanted to brawl a place to go and to keep it off the main pages, no one was forced to go there, and it worked well as it has run it's course and is basically a dead zone.

Of course your opinion on the page would have to be colored by your negative experiences there, which I can understand and appreciate. Others however have survived very well their experience there, such as Z-Man, and AM. While it did get very nasty there at times, there was also much humor and I think, some truth.

CP
 

QFIT

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creeping panther said:
I stand by my statement on Parker, probably the main reason for that sites dismal failure.
You are incorrect. Very few posts are moderated.

Please name the federal law Arnold broke.:confused:
It is illegal to use fraud in an attempt to destroy a US corporation.

I believe you may view Arnold as some type of Ninja Assassin? (Or possibly an Assange:eek:):laugh:
Not slightly correct.

The Fight Club allowed those who wanted to brawl a place to go and to keep it off the main pages, no one was forced to go there, and it worked well as it has run it's course and is basically a dead zone.
You do not know the history. The Fight Club was specifically designed to destroy other forums and in particular businesses held by people that BJF did not like. The very first post attacked four other BJ forum managers. On both the Fight Club and main pages, astounding libelous statements were made on a continuous basis, and the victims of this fraud were and are barred from responding. Most of the posts were by one person using numerous aliases. She even used names of known experts as aliases. Do not be fooled into thinking the posts are from the people claimed.

Of course your opinion on the page would have to be colored by your negative experiences there, which I can understand and appreciate. Others however have survived very well their experience there, such as Z-Man, and AM. While it did get very nasty there at times, there was also much humor and I think, some truth.
Clearly incorrect as ZG is barred, and I think AM is also barred. Cyrus was actually barred for claiming that people are barred. I am also barred, although Stalker and others have stated, over and over, that I am not barred but somehow chicken to respond. There have even been posts using my name that I didn't make. Only, I can't post they weren't from me. As for truth, you have been taken in. I have been accused of numerous felonies all of which have not one scintilla of truth. In an attempt to destroy CV, it was posted, multiple times, that if you buy CV I will turn you into the casinos. The concept is ludicrous. It was posted that if you even read advantageplayer.com, then you will be tracked down and robbed. There are dozens of claims that I said things that I've never said or thought. And again, the victims are not allowed to respond. I am saddened by the fact that anyone would defend this blot on the AP world. It is an embarrassment to us all.
 
QFIT said:
You are incorrect. Very few posts are moderated.



It is illegal to use fraud in an attempt to destroy a US corporation.



Not slightly correct.



You do not know the history. The Fight Club was specifically designed to destroy other forums and in particular businesses held by people that BJF did not like. The very first post attacked four other BJ forum managers. On both the Fight Club and main pages, astounding libelous statements were made on a continuous basis, and the victims of this fraud were and are barred from responding. Most of the posts were by one person using numerous aliases. She even used names of known experts as aliases. Do not be fooled into thinking the posts are from the people claimed.



Clearly incorrect as ZG is barred, and I think AM is also barred. Cyrus was actually barred for claiming that people are barred. I am also barred, although Stalker and others have stated, over and over, that I am not barred but somehow chicken to respond. There have even been posts using my name that I didn't make. Only, I can't post they weren't from me. As for truth, you have been taken in. I have been accused of numerous felonies all of which have not one scintilla of truth. In an attempt to destroy CV, it was posted, multiple times, that if you buy CV I will turn you into the casinos. The concept is ludicrous. It was posted that if you even read advantageplayer.com, then you will be tracked down and robbed. There are dozens of claims that I said things that I've never said or thought. And again, the victims are not allowed to respond. I am saddened by the fact that anyone would defend this blot on the AP world. It is an embarrassment to us all.
Q,

Yes, that last paragraph and what you stated is so ridiculous and outrageous that it had me laughing out loud. Not at you but at their antics, everyone with a brain saw what they were doing, looked upon them as the 3 Stooges, and laughed their asses off.

I can tell you no one took their antics as fact, but simply Frat House shennanigans. Of course some people fear buying your software and then being outed at some time in the future, I have heard that from many players, just a healthy bit of paranoia.

Truth, yes, there was some truth thrown in, do not discount it entirely,,,after all maybe you did need a new hair style:laugh:

I will say that at times the politics page at BJ21 looks just like the fight club.

Q, you have done a great job with your software and you should be proud. I have recently referred to you and your software as "God Norm and his Holy Sacrament".

Norm, I think you need to relax, lighten up and laugh alot more, you are way to serious.:);)

AS to Parker and the other site, as you have said the Fight Club is dead and all true AP's have left, the same can be said for Parkers site,,,even DS jumped ship, that is so evident.

CP
 

QFIT

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It is easy for you to say "laugh it off." But, Don and I post under our real names and still work in an industry that is highly scrutinized. Internet libel lasts forever.
 
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QFIT said:
It is easy for you to say "laugh it off." But, Don and I post under our real names and still work in an industry that is highly scrutinized. Internet libel lasts forever.
Maybe you need to sue?

Real Names, hmm,,,maybe that was a mistake?

Do not fret Q, Norm, you are highly thought of and a great success, as is Don S.,,,so rest easy in this life knowing you have done well.:cool:

CP
 

QFIT

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creeping panther said:
Maybe you need to sue?
Can't imagine purposely going to court. I plan to be able to say I've never sued anyone on my deathbed. Besides, suits are near impossible in this country.

Real Names, hmm,,,maybe that was a mistake?
I started posting on the I'Net when it was the ARPANet, decades ago. I was the moderator for one of the early forums. Real names were always used back then.
Do not fret Q, Norm, you are highly thought of and a great success, as is Don S.,,,so rest easy in this life knowing you have done well.:cool:
Thanks for the kind words. But, I haven't stopped living yet and don't like libel getting in my way.
 

aslan

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zengrifter said:
I don't remember being banned? :confused: But if I ever am, I don't want anyone defending me. I know the rules, and if I get banned, I'll take my lumps. Sometimes, I think I should have been shut down, but apparently the moderators did not. I hate being told what I can say and what I cannot say, and sometimes I push back, but, heck, this isn't a democracy, and I know the risk. Sorry you were banned. Shape up (be a good sheeple-- lol) and stick around. You have the potential of being one of the greatest contributors of useful blackjack information and insight on this Forum. I'd hate to lose out on your knowledge and help, and I do appreciate the plentiful help and encouragement you gave me along the way. But there is a saying...the dogs bark but the caravan moves on.
 
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zengrifter

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creeping panther said:
Others however have survived very well their experience there, such as Z-Man, and AM.
I was permanently banned from Fight Club. Something about being "disruptive to smooth forum?" zg
 
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zengrifter said:
I was permanently banned from Fight Club. Something about being "disruptive to smooth forum?" zg
Fighting with people like that is like hanging out under an overpass and fighting with the bums that live there. Sure, I can win the fight. But what is the prize- an empty bottle and a case of hepatitis? There is nothing worthwhile in places like that. Serious players would have better things to do with their time.
 

zengrifter

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Automatic Monkey said:
Fighting with people like that is like hanging out under an overpass and fighting with the bums that live there. Sure, I can win the fight. But what is the prize- an empty bottle and a case of hepatitis?
The recent Sherlock Holmes flick with Robert Downey - thats what Holmes was doing, brawling just for sport. zg
 

QFIT

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Automatic Monkey said:
Fighting with people like that is like hanging out under an overpass and fighting with the bums that live there. Sure, I can win the fight. But what is the prize- an empty bottle and a case of hepatitis? There is nothing worthwhile in places like that. Serious players would have better things to do with their time.
I hate when I do that.
 

aslan

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zengrifter said:
A classic Aslanism. Keep it up. zg
Not that you haven't already been a great contributor. :grin: And you have the potential to become a great contributor in the future. Don't want you resting on your laurels, now do we? :laugh:
 
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