AP predators & the wild casino kingdom

Machinist said:

Live while you are young. Careers.."unless it is your passion in life" are a joke. How many people do you know that jump out of bed and say YAAAAAAAAAAA its off to work i go..I love my JOB!!!!! Seriously?????? How many????
So i say to a young person ...explore and experience... Do alot of different stuff,,, you might find something you really enjoy!!!
Save a career for your later years in my opinon .

Machinst

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I couldn't agree with your view more, Machinist. What better time for someone to take a chance and follow a dream than when they are young and only responsible for themselves. Before dependants and mortgages and multiple car payments and so on and so on. As a matter of fact I just relayed this opinion to a young player who pmed me, this week, who is considering advantage play when he completes his education shortly.

Funny thing though, when I expressed this similar opinion a while back on the board, several members jumped all over me. :laugh:

very interesting

kewljason said:

I couldn't agree with your view more, Machinist. What better time for someone to take a chance and follow a dream than when they are young and only responsible for themselves. Before dependants and mortgages and multiple car payments and so on and so on. As a matter of fact I just relayed this opinion to a young player who pmed me, this week, who is considering advantage play when he completes his education shortly.

Funny thing though, when I expressed this similar opinion a while back on the board, several members jumped all over me. :laugh:

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Well them sons a beeches...:laugh::laugh: Why they gotta hate!!!!:whip::whip:
I have parts of my family that have concerns, when my nephews and nieces come around and spend time with Uncle Machinist..:laugh::laugh:
Oh well....What ever floats everybodies boats.....I just point out a "realists" point of view on life.
Keep hittin em KJ...

Machinist

humility before nature

nature whatever it is, everything i guess.
seems a good thing to be humble before it, accept and receive from nature as if gives forth it's bounty with respect and thanksgiving, not expecting more than what is.
so it is in the wild kingdom, so it is in the wild casinodom.
maybe help far as those wild swings, dead, dead, boring times, or whatever an AP deals with, maybe?

kewljason said:

I don't need nor desire your sympathy. I have been on vacation for 5 weeks with limited casino play (foxwood promotion and a couple casual days checking out some of the east coasts new venues), but hope to continue hitting them hard after Labor day. Thanx for the thought.

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I'll tell you what kj I don't know how you do it, but keep on doing it. There is no way I could pull up on vacation for 5 weeks straight and I'm playing with a substantially larger bankroll than yourself. (This is going on what you have said in the past, as far as the bankroll figure I'm going by, don't know if thats changed) Anyway, as a rather low to mid stakes grinder, you have found a way to pull off the improbable. Good for you, I hope you enjoy your time off. Me personally, not only can I not do that, although with team members it can be managed to have some time off, I don't think I could take all that time off straight just because I like the work. But I also probably put less time per week in the casino then you so different play styles has its pros and cons it seems. Anyway good luck to you, keep it up.

Bojack1 said:

I'll tell you what kj I don't know how you do it, but keep on doing it. There is no way I could pull up on vacation for 5 weeks straight and I'm playing with a substantially larger bankroll than yourself. (This is going on what you have said in the past, as far as the bankroll figure I'm going by, don't know if thats changed) Anyway, as a rather low to mid stakes grinder, you have found a way to pull off the improbable. Good for you, I hope you enjoy your time off. Me personally, not only can I not do that, although with team members it can be managed to have some time off, I don't think I could take all that time off straight just because I like the work. But I also probably put less time per week in the casino then you so different play styles has its pros and cons it seems. Anyway good luck to you, keep it up.

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speaking of teams, is other teams ever a problem for you?

Bojack1 said:

I'll tell you what kj I don't know how you do it, but keep on doing it. There is no way I could pull up on vacation for 5 weeks straight and I'm playing with a substantially larger bankroll than yourself. (This is going on what you have said in the past, as far as the bankroll figure I'm going by, don't know if thats changed) Anyway, as a rather low to mid stakes grinder, you have found a way to pull off the improbable. Good for you, I hope you enjoy your time off. Me personally, not only can I not do that, although with team members it can be managed to have some time off, I don't think I could take all that time off straight just because I like the work. But I also probably put less time per week in the casino then you so different play styles has its pros and cons it seems. Anyway good luck to you, keep it up.

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When I say I am on vacation, Bojack, I just mean taking a bit of a break from my usual blackjack schedule. I am not jetting all over the world or anything. Just dividing my time between Philly and the Jersey shore. (Wildwood not Atlantic City) Mainly just staying out of the desert for July and August, although I think July had twenty, 90+ degree days on the east coast and 90 degree, humid east coast is far worse than 100 degree Vegas dry heat. Luckily August has been a little more normal. It also has given me the chance to catch up with friends that I moved away from. As I said, I have played a bit of blackjack, checking out the games at Parx casino, Delaware Park, and Sands in Bethlehem, as well as the Mohegan Sun promotion. I have even been to AC once, but choose to stay away as I have experienced AC enough over the last 6 years to know that summer isn't my favorite time of year there. :laugh:

As for the financial concerns, remember that my living expenses are minimal, as I am single with no dependants. I don't even own a car. Up until 2 years ago, I never made more than 20-some grand in any year, either playing blackjack or at a job, so the money I am earning these days seems like a windfall to me. Far more than I need or am used to. I am sure that wouldn't be the case for yourself or most other members of this site. Thanx for the encouragement. You are always a class act.

sagefr0g said:

speaking of teams, is other teams ever a problem for you?

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Actually not very often. I've had far more issues with those supposed to be friends and potential teamates, then with other crews. While there is the occasional dustup on a mutual playing site with other AP's, its never anything that can't be handled fairly easily. It just takes a little persuasive communication. Give respect, get respect. If that rule can't be followed all bets are off.

Bojack1 said:

Actually not very often. I've had far more issues with those supposed to be friends and potential teamates, then with other crews. While there is the occasional dustup on a mutual playing site with other AP's, its never anything that can't be handled fairly easily. It just takes a little persuasive communication. Give respect, get respect. If that rule can't be followed all bets are off.

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ok, i figured as much, considering what i'm guessing your venue is mainly.
but yes, give and get respect for sure in general, otherwise things can get ugly.
so but, also, i can imagine some shenanigans might well occur with in a group. kind of a scary thought that too, as say some team member gets upset to the point they could turn rat. i'll bet it's a fairly complicated thing running a team. i know just doing something as simple as splits with another isn't as simple as one might think, since there are so many ways two or more people can win and lose money by whatever amount, not even have plays, ect, all that in various combination and amounts, sorta thing.
whatever, i imagine, teams might end up where the money is right and the games are right for professionals sorta thing, was just wondering, thank you.

Looks like this thread has been cleaned up a bit, which is probably a good thing. It does make it a little wierd though, to read replys and quotes to a message that is no longer there. :laugh:

kewljason said:

Looks like this thread has been cleaned up a bit, which is probably a good thing. It does make it a little wierd though, to read replys and quotes to a message that is no longer there. :laugh:

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it's a jungle in this here voodoo realm, i tell ya, a jungle!!!!:whip:

sagefr0g said:

it's a jungle in this here voodoo realm, i tell ya, a jungle!!!!:whip:

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I was sailing along doing great at the xxxPalacexxxStatioxxnx, winning good, having a great time conversing with the pit, dealer and players alike. Then, I made a remark that I came to the xxxPalacexxx (home of the famous OJ stick up) because it was now safe with OJ in jail. Icicles immediately formed on the once-jovial dealer's lips. Apparently (I'm guessing), OJ was a big tipper and liked immensely by the dealer crew, at least, this one. It put such a damper on the ensuing play that I had to leave the table. Upon returning, the dealer shift had changed and I commenced to have a great time for the rest of my stay into the wee hours of the morning.

The moral: When in Florida, drink orange juice (OJ).

aslan said:

I was sailing along doing great at the xxxPalacexxxStatioxxnx, winning good, having a great time conversing with the pit, dealer and players alike. Then, I made a remark that I came to the xxxPalacexxx (home of the famous OJ stick up) because it was now safe with OJ in jail. Icicles immediately formed on the once-jovial dealer's lips. Apparently (I'm guessing), OJ was a big tipper and liked immensely by the dealer crew, at least, this one. It put such a damper on the ensuing play that I had to leave the table. Upon returning, the dealer shift had changed and I commenced to have a great time for the rest of my stay into the wee hours of the morning.

The moral: When in Florida, drink orange juice (OJ).

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yeah really, just one 'wrong' word, action, combination of both can set off some really nasty stuff.
so but, it's a good thing to know that, be prepared for it, try and avoid it, or maybe even take advantage of it, kinda thing.
whatever there are all types in these joints, for sure.
just the other night some dude at a table wound up getting clobbered in the head by a beer bottle wielding 'lady'. blood all over the place, shweww.........

sagefr0g said:

yeah really, just one 'wrong' word, action, combination of both can set off some really nasty stuff.
so but, it's a good thing to know that, be prepared for it, try and avoid it, or maybe even take advantage of it, kinda thing.
whatever there are all types in these joints, for sure.
just the other night some dude at a table wound up getting clobbered in the head by a beer bottle wielding 'lady'. blood all over the place, shweww.........

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You've got to stop playing at the Long Branch Saloon. BTW, was that bottle-wielding lady, Miss Kitty, by any chance? View attachment 6968

aslan said:

You've got to stop playing at the Long Branch Saloon. BTW, was that bottle-wielding lady, Miss Kitty, by any chance? View attachment 6968

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automonk has it right in this post:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=193665&postcount=2
at least for the heavy duty gamblers and compuslives.

wow

sagefr0g said:

yeah really, just one 'wrong' word, action, combination of both can set off some really nasty stuff.
so but, it's a good thing to know that, be prepared for it, try and avoid it, or maybe even take advantage of it, kinda thing.
whatever there are all types in these joints, for sure.
just the other night some dude at a table wound up getting clobbered in the head by a beer bottle wielding 'lady'. blood all over the place, shweww.........

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You okay frog. I know the woman is getting a little edgy once in a while but dam!!! Put yer foot down frog !!!!!!!!!!! no more drinkin for the little lady!!!
Possibly you had it coming cause you wasn't sharing . It was her turn to sit at the table a nd play.....i dont care how hot your shoe was!!!! Dammit she wanted to play and it was her turn!!:laugh::laugh:

ALERT ALERT!!!!! Frog abuse!!!!

Machinist

Machinist said:

You okay frog. I know the woman is getting a little edgy once in a while but dam!!! Put yer foot down frog !!!!!!!!!!! no more drinkin for the little lady!!!
Possibly you had it coming cause you wasn't sharing . It was her turn to sit at the table a nd play.....i dont care how hot your shoe was!!!! Dammit she wanted to play and it was her turn!!:laugh::laugh:

ALERT ALERT!!!!! Frog abuse!!!!

Machinist

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:laugh:
lol, no, this time it wasn't me, but Y, well uh huh, yup a bit edgy at times, yup. lol. and, and, it's all my fault, i know that.
but no we are not gonna open up that can of worms, errhh a discussion of the pro's and con's of woikin wit womnens, nupe, that discussion is dead, dead i tell ya, it's kilt.:juggle::angel:

more on Kipling's Law of the Jungle

Ye may kill for yourselves, and your mates,
and your cubs as they need, and ye can;
But kill not for pleasure of killing,

replacing the word kill with the phrase 'make plays' we have"

Ye may make plays for yourselves, and your mates,
and your cubs as they need, and ye can;
But make plays not for pleasure of making plays,

see images below:

no disrespect meant, i'd like make a statement in regard to this thread that was locked.
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=205061&postcount=34

"Somewhere along the line the AP part of the topic got misplaced, and we ended up on religion. Thread closed."

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it did indeed end up as stated.
it could have went beyond that point, perhaps to a point that could help some of us work out a better understanding of advantage play and voodoo stuff. i say this in no way meaning to be argumentative and i fully respect your desire for the subject of religion to not hold sway over AP stuff.
key here, imho, is that we might have got to a nitty gritty point of understanding with respect to how advantage players think and are motivated as opposed to how voodoo practitioners, or ploppies think and are motivated.
so i'm posting here in the AP predators & wild casino kingdom thread with the hopes that we can still get there.
in a nutshell it's my opinion that truly creative advantage players may access a process in their thinking that is otherwise inhibited for the case of voodoo practitioners and ploppies, inhibited to some degree by the influence of morality, ethics and religion and surprisingly maybe even science and math.
so if that were the case, it would seem a freedom in one's mind to imagine all types of scenario's in a creative way is a good thing when planning some advantage tactic, thing is though that could leave one vulnerable to aspects that it would be wise to re-examine in the light of morality, ethics and religion, as those principles are often more efficient in protecting us against breaking the law than say a full lifetime of undertaking a study of law, sorta thing.

sagefr0g said:

in a nutshell it's my opinion that truly creative advantage players may access a process in their thinking that is otherwise inhibited for the case of voodoo practitioners and ploppies, inhibited to some degree by the influence of morality, ethics and religion and surprisingly maybe even science and math.
so if that were the case, it would seem a freedom in one's mind to imagine all types of scenario's in a creative way is a good thing when planning some advantage tactic, thing is though that could leave one vulnerable to aspects that it would be wise to re-examine in the light of morality, ethics and religion, as those principles are often more efficient in protecting us against breaking the law than say a full lifetime of undertaking a study of law, sorta thing.

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Bottom line Froggy - RELIGION is a subject ARBITRARILY FORBIDDEN for discussion at BJINFO. Cape'ce paisan? zg

zengrifter said:

Bottom line Froggy - RELIGION is a subject ARBITRARILY FORBIDDEN for discussion at BJINFO. Cape'ce paisan? zg

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Truth is, if we can't discuss religion, we should not be permitted to discuss science either. Islam is one person's religion, science another's. And for some, there is a compatibility between the two.

OTOProverbialH, the age old adage comes into play, that is, that there are two things to avoid in polite conversation, religion and politics. In that vein, who can argue with the current BJINFO policy?

My advice: start thee thine own Blackjack site or expand ZZ to include BJ, if thy charter permits! I may join thee, but I do not wish to join an all-religion-and-politics site.