luck

Bojack1 said:

Luck cannot be summoned at will whether it be good luck or bad, but I do believe that there are certain components that need to be in place to experience the frequency in which luck will strike you.

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so like if those certain components aren't in place you'll maybe never know what hit you. that is i guess if you want the Gates kind of luck as opposed to the lottery guy's luck. the lottery guy knows but not many folks would know the Gates sort of luck unless they had the sort of attributes he has.

Take for example 2 wealthy men. One is a powerball or mega millions lottery winner, the other is say Bill Gates. Now to win the lottery we all must agree that requires tremendous luck. You can try to win, you can have many systems that you feel give you the best chance to win, you can try through attrition of buying as many tickets as possible, but the bottomline is it is almost an impossiblity to win it. But all that is needed is some luck and you are instantly a multi millionare.

Now with case of Bill Gates he needs luck too right. He needed somebody to believe a college dropout could give the world something they couldn't seem to live without. He had to have vision, intelligence, design, perserverance, the technical skills and the courage to pull it off. He had all the tools to make a world changing development, but without a little luck you know what would have happened....He still would've become the richest SOB on the planet.

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right he had the vision to see the black swan that everyone else was blind too. and he knew what to do with the darned thing.
and courage yeah kind of like the risk issue. lol i think he sold the dos operating system before he even owned it sort of thing.
then i think he kind of out foxed Apple when they were busy out foxing xerox lol. what a story. so he had vision and figured out what to do with it.

Thats because luck can change the course in which you get to your destiny, but if you are truly prepared and committed you can still get where you were going. Of course if you are that lottery winner and instead of being the winner today, you're not, well your course has been changed and there is very little hope you will find it.

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luck can change the course in which you get to your destiny. interesting statement and i think one that can be taken a lot of differant ways. thing i'm interested in that regard is the idea that maybe luck could be a (my new word of the week) heiuristic (means shortcut if i spelled it right lmao) as well as something that could be taken advantage of.

There are all type of deep philosphies to describe things we don't fully understand. The deeper the reasoning tries to become usually the more lost the truth becomes. Simplicity is wasted on the ignorant. And weakness will breed complexity.

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thats exactly what Taleb's book The Black Swan is saying about the phenomenon of luck and uncertainty.

We all have been guilty at one time or another of trying to get out of something we don't want to do. More times than not the act of avoidance is much harder than the act we needed to address to begin with.

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lol i knew that was comming. guilty as charged. but at least i'm trying to find a way easier not harder.

Luck is just a word. I don't agree that it is a noun. I believe it is descriptive of a situation but it is not any kind of entity or force.

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lol i thought that was what a noun was. descriptive of a person, place or thing sort of situation. but yeah lets take the voodoo out of luck it's a really thing. maybe not even as voodoo as the mystery of the universe if there really is a mystery of the universe as opposed to being some sort of really strange question. lol

Bottomline is, I feel to a degree we can control luck to the point if we have it of course it helps, and if we don't well then it just delays the inevitable that we've prepared for. If one is not prepared and relies more on luck than their own skill, the results will be as fleeting as luck itself. In which case the inevitable then usually results in failure, or what commonly referred to as bad luck. I do not think it is a coincidence that those with the most success in whatever field they excel in seem to be the luckiest. Bad breaks, or "bad luck" befalls everyone at some point. But its all relative to the outcome and your preparation for it.

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can't argue with that bojack! like i think a good example of that thought is the idea attributed to Don Schelsinger about " if they don't get you early on they just might not get you" sort of thing. luck could very well be a part of such a scenerio. thank your for your response. end edit sort of...

there we have it ladies and gentlemen. an 'elder statesman's' genuine real advantage player professional take on luck!
and if you believe Taleb in his book Black Swan it is the elder statesman types that might just have a clue.
now if we could get a few more (zg, Ken, ihate17, automonk, shadrock and others my feeble memory fails to mention) to chime in. and Sonny too since maybe not elder but wise beyond his years.
i'd comment on bojack's statement but i gotta go play some blackjack for now. <<=== edit: i'm back. i guess i was lucky. won $27. :cool2:
maybe even RJT will chime in now that the magic name has been invoked. :joker:

creating order out of chaos

still on luck here. i was watching nat. geo. tv this morning and something was on about the architectural design of some ruins in Greece or Egypt or some where. thing that struck me was when the narrator said how the sculptors of the columns were creating order out of chaos and how that was part of what the buildings themselv's represented.
so but what a way cool phrase. creating order out of chaos.
sort of gets to the heart of the idea of what anyone would want to do with luck. sort of like luck in analogy might be some wild but both wonderful and fearsom formshifting mythological beast. the form of which it takes wonderful or fearsom always elusive of the capabilities of our methods of expectation.
our task to either guard against or take advantage of this feral beast. such is the nature of black swans in the real world. according to Taleb in his book The Black Swan to either deal with or take advantage of black swans (ie. luck, uncertainty, true randomness) in the real world requires thinking outside of the Gausian box except in one case that he could think of. that case being casino's inwhich mankind has succeeded in taming uncertainty so that it does fit closely the Gausian bell curve. then he goes on to say that in his view that the randomness found in casino's is a 'mild' form of the black swan type of randomness found in the real world. so of course he's referring to variance and or standard deviation. it's a way of saying that the standard deviation we encounter in casino's is a 'mild' form of real luck that is found in the real world outside of casinos. lol.
point being on the subject of luck and casinos and luck and the world outside of casinos is that if you buy this argument then we have a definition of luck (albeit 'mild' luck) inside casinos (our area of interest) that being standard deviation. and this is indeed how we who are interested in casinos commonly bandy about the terminology.
thing about it is and this gets the voodoo going is that nobody in the really AP community speculates that this 'mild' form of luck can have it's feral nature domesticated so that advantage can be taken of it. to where standard deviation is dealt with in the AP world by assessing ROR problems but not assessing the possibility of advantage more so than it's all just a part of the chaotic nature of say blackjacks variance but playing with an advantage we will overcome all... that sort of an idea.
point being though and i'm guess putting the cart before the horse or jumping the gun as i haven't finished Taleb's book but let's assume Taleb has a viable way to take advantage of black swans in the real world. if so then since standard deviation is just a 'mild' form of a black swan then perhaps there is a way to glean fortuitous luck from standard deviation just as there may be in the real world. maybe once we know what it is Taleb says to do for the black swan in the real world the idea would be to backward engineer that approach to fit the 'mild' black swans of casinos.

some quotes on luck

FOCUS ON WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW

THERE IS A DISPROPORTIONATE PAYOFF FOR UNEXPECTED EVENTS THAT YOU HAVE LITTLE TO LOSE AND PLENTY TO GAIN FROM.

RARE EVENTS = UNCERTAINTY

TO UNDERSTAND COMMON EVENTS WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE RARE EVENTS INSTEAD OF THE NORMAL EVENTS.

when ever your survival is in play don't immeadiately look for causes and effects.
it might just be randomness.to invoke randomness is to plead ignorance.

train your self to spot the differance between the sensational and the empirical.

prediction not narration is our real test of our understanding of the world.

there is nothing usual about the future it is not a Platonic category.

epistemic arrogance literally, our hubis concerning the limits of our knowledge. True, our knowledge does grow, but it is threatened by greater increases in confidence, which make our increase in knowledge at the same time and increase in confusion, ignorance, and conceit.

we use the example of games, which probability theory was successful at tracking, and claim that this is a general case. Furthermore, just as we tend to underestimate the role of chance in life in general, we tend to over estimate it in games.
now go read the classical thinkers who had something practical to say about the subject of chance, such as Cicero, and you find something differant: a notion of probability that remains fuzzy throughout, as it needs to be, since fuzzyness is the very nature of uncertainty. probability is a liberal art; a child of skepticism, not a tool for people with calculators on thier belts to satisfy thier desire to produce fancy calculations.

On our intuitions one particularity of our intuitive judgment: even if we lived in Mediocristan (a term for the Gaussian world) in which large events are rare, we would still underestimate the extremes- we would think that they are even rarer. We underestimate our error rate even with Gaussian varialbles.


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some moi fuzzy thoughts on luck (take with a grain of salt)
maybe the best player can't fool around with luck cause he has no improvement to make with respect to his play. he has nothing to fall back on should his luck fail other than to have the treadmill effect.
for a mediocre player might the differance be thinking instead of not thinking, judgement as opposed to no judgement, measurement as opposed to no measurement for getting luck instead of that you prepared to be an AP and acted as an AP? & recognizing luck when you see it because you know what it would be for the best player in the world.
how about going from uncertainty to certainty and back to uncertainty to certainty again? what's that mean with regard to luck when thinking, judgement and measurement are called into play? & recognizing luck when you see it because you know what it would be for the best player in the world.

Jagger on luck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYO0Ugqba4c

What's The Matter, Everything or Nothing

Kasi said:

What's a strong game? What's a weak game? What does it matter?

One stan dev is always one stan dev lol. If I'm ahead 2 stan dev in a -EV game and yet still losing money, am I not "luckier" than a CC one stan behind but who still has a profit?

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Don't you add your EV into your standard deviation, be it a negative expectation, a low positive expectation or a high positive expectation? Those differences start to add up over time vs luck/variance.

Play right you can own everything:joker::whip:
Play wrong you can own nothing:whip:

blackjack avenger said:

Don't you add your EV into your standard deviation, be it a negative expectation, a low positive expectation or a high positive expectation? Those differences start to add up over time vs luck/variance.

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yup.

Play right you can own everything:joker::whip:
Play wrong you can own nothing:whip:

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how about this:
Play right you can own everything:joker::whip:
Play maybe wrong or maybe right you can own nothing or maybe something:whip:
Play right you can own everything:joker::whip:

maybe you pay attention to your luck/variance even measure it and fashion your play accordingly. at any rate two rights beats one maybe rights or wrongs even if the maybe rights or wrongs are right. add them all together and you gotta be right, maybe.

Short thru Long Term

I was referring to the long run
In the short run anything is possible
One can always get lucky:joker::whip:

lucky smuck

I have sat at tables with high counts and have been unlucky enough to draw nothing but bust hands. I have sat at the low count tables and have been unlucky enough to draw the same bust hands. I will learn one day to turn this phenom around one of this days. I can do what I want and rationalize the losses that I incur as the std dev and var. that come with the game. Tell me the truth if some clueless smuck walks up and starts killing the table with high bets and stupid plays and wins his ass off just tell me that don't bother you deep inside your card counting mind. blackchipjim

Up You One or Several

How about losing your hand and the dealer taking your chips and then paying the whole table.

Throw in a few more times the dealer paying most or all of the table. Oh, did I mention my bets were more then enough to pay the whole table.

I guess I am a :joker: because I kept shoveling out the cash.:joker::whip:

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I was referring to the long run
In the short run anything is possible
One can always get lucky...

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well what about the long run? luck can't happen in it? i get the impression you don't wanna talk about luck but you wanna talk about advantage instead.:whip:
the only kind of luck your really interested in is the kind Jagger talks about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYO0Ugqba4c
maybe if you wasn't all the time such a math nerd you'd find some of that sort of luck. lmao. but thats ok maybe if we learn more about luck in general we can learn about that kind of luck to.:joker::whip:
it seems as if in the short run if bad luck happens early on it sure can be a struggle to overcome it. but if in the short run if good luck happens early on it sure can be a struggle to keep it.
so as far as the long run maybe the phenomenon is even more profoud?:cat::whip:
maybe the point is try and not let your self get into the long run with out luck. sort of don't leave home with out it. :whip:
maybe the above summarization is all hogwash and for any particular individual over what ever particular time horizon one will never know how luck behaves if you don't measure it. maybe we really don't know what luck is in a casino since it's not the same thing as luck that happens outside the casino walls. maybe in a casino luck is an individual dependent sort of thing. lol maybe luck in a casino isn't all good for all people. especially when you look at a pro AP as opposed to a recreational AP. if that were true it might be a wise thing for a given individual to define for himself what luck is. it could be just EV or some degree of standard deviation realized in the short run. i mean heck what is it for a pro AP he just wants to rack up that positive EV with as many hands as possible and to hell with money long as he's got his ROR in order. lmao. maybe for the long run or as you approach the long run one might need to adjust their perception of what luck is where you may measure what ever individual short term session luck is as opposed to your up to some point overall longish term session luck.
maybe lady luck gets bored with you if you keep bringing her the same kind of flowers lmao. maybe to get her attentions you need to surprise her with differant approachs. :cry::whip:
but maybe measurement is key for any approach. like when i thought i was playing like a real orthodox AP for a few years or so and everything was so rosie and then i get smacked in the kisser with a nasty series of sessions of losing one seventh of my hard a$$ earned bank. but when i'm asked to give the measurements of what happened i couldn't do it. when i tryed to make a serious study of just what it was i did over those years i discover that the real orthodox play was mixed in with all sorts of voodoo stuff to the point where it's virtually impossible to get a true measure of luck or advantage realized. maybe anyone who plays blackjack ought to ask themselve's from time to time just what the heck is it i've really been doing as opposed to what i think i should be doing. probably the answer is gonna be a suprise if your not RJT or bojack or maybe the avenger.
when i was playing blackjack a lot and i'd come home and the wife would want to know how i did. it was like oh ok if i told her i won some money but a differant story if i told her i lost some money. if i told her i lost some money over some amount it was the ole hands on her hips with that look sorta thing. then she say "your off of your game. you don't know when to quit" and i'd try and explain how it's all good baby when you got the advantage and how it's all about getting that EV. all the while i get this deadpan look and again the "your off of your game" statement. me i'm thinkin (in my mental mind lol) your full of sh!t and are never gonna understand. well i guess if i was a true blackjackavenger i'd of been right but i can't prove i was an avenger even to myself much less her. truth be known she was probably right and i was off my game for what ever reason. maybe steaming, maybe making honest mistakes, maybe doing some wishful betting because the real advantage times were so few and far between and i'd just lost a load of chips or maybe even some genuine real negative fluctuation that an AP experiences. thing is though truth be known i had no way to prove it and that being the case the wife might as well have been right. aren't they always lol. just my anecdotal experience after 30 years with the same woman.
just call me lucky.

dem the breaks

I can tell you from experience about the hands on the hips move of your wife sf. I just hate the stink that follows after my wife passes the table I'm playing and seeing a ton of chips in front of me and comes back later to see nothing in front of me. It's bad enough to run into neg var. but to listen to someone extol the virtues of being conservative in betting just drives me wild sometimes. I've been with the same woman for 28 years and she still gives me the business about bj. blackchipjim

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lucky smuck
I have sat at tables with high counts and have been unlucky enough to draw nothing but bust hands. I have sat at the low count tables and have been unlucky enough to draw the same bust hands. I will learn one day to turn this phenom around one of this days. I can do what I want and rationalize the losses that I incur as the std dev and var. that come with the game. Tell me the truth if some clueless smuck walks up and starts killing the table with high bets and stupid plays and wins his ass off just tell me that don't bother you deep inside your card counting mind. blackchipjim

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exactly it's mind boggling. perfectly normal as we all know too. thing is normal as it is and right as what ever AP philosophy is as well i a'int buying it that some of that "luck" can't be captured or taken advantage of and that some of that "misfortune" can't be avoided. this phenomenon is something we know is going to happen and we know how often it's going to happen. we even know the degree's of confidence for which it'll occur. with all that knowing and we're still too stupid to take advantage of it or avoid it?
maybe probably i'm wrong but still seems worth a try. could just be where the concept of playing like a good little robot and maybe thinking and using some judgement might make the differance. be wise like your lady. lol.

blackchipjim said:

I can tell you from experience about the hands on the hips move of your wife sf. I just hate the stink that follows after my wife passes the table I'm playing and seeing a ton of chips in front of me and comes back later to see nothing in front of me. It's bad enough to run into neg var. but to listen to someone extol the virtues of being conservative in betting just drives me wild sometimes. I've been with the same woman for 28 years and she still gives me the business about bj. blackchipjim

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well that's what i'm saying too. thing is when i figured out she was right it really hurt. after thirty years she knows me better than i know myself.:cat:
women aren't supposed to be right. just powerful.:whip: lmao

Presto Chango

A math nerd? :laugh:
I imagine some math teachers of mine would find this very amusing!

I am more of a war hammer then a rapier.:whip:

I read somewhere the idea of cooking the books to smooth out the variance for your spouse.

Perhaps if you are winnning it's very important to keep good records to show the wife after a losing streak. Maybe the best reason to keep records :joker::whip:

Tell the spouse or anyone else that the stock market does not go up every day.

I think one would find that a player playing with a 2% advantage will have more luck then a player playing with a .10% advantage. Watch the magic happen:devil::whip:

std dev vs ?

Say what, if you never had the advantage kick your butt then I don't think you play all that often. I've had advantage out the ying yang and still drew bust hand after bust hand. In the long run yes I will come out ahead but the frog is talking about losing streaks that seem to never end. Anyone that has played for long a time can attest to the fact. I have had dream sessions and nightmare ones the math tells you what the eventually outcome will be but the riding can get to even a seasoned vet. A math nerd is a badge of honor were I come from even though I don't posess the mental ability to do the math I respect you for your knowledge. Without the math nerds we would be left to our own device. blackchipjim:band:

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A math nerd? :laugh:
I imagine some math teachers of mine would find this very amusing!

I am more of a war hammer then a rapier.:whip:

I read somewhere the idea of cooking the books to smooth out the variance for your spouse.

Perhaps if you are winnning it's very important to keep good records to show the wife after a losing streak. Maybe the best reason to keep records :joker::whip:

Tell the spouse or anyone else that the stock market does not go up every day.

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i should send all your math teachers a copy of this! they'd all be so proud. but if any of them are married they'd give you an F cause none of the above sh!t works.:whip:

I think one would find that a player playing with a 2% advantage will have more luck then a player playing with a .10% advantage. Watch the magic happen:devil::whip:

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well my hats off to you and anyone else who can eek out a 2% advantage card counting. i know when i was trying (orthodox by the book) to do it my percieved advantage (aka results) was well over 2% but that was only two years and just barely at my N0 maybe. so my anecdotal evidence agree's with the luck part of your statement. just as an aside do you think that meant anything to my wife when i came home loser? NOT. but she was right. truth was as hard as i honestly made the effort i was screwing up left and right and didn't even have the self awareness or intellectual integrity to realize it. but she did! lmao. so but when i finally after a couple of years hit a real down swing of significant size to provide a wake up call enough to decide to really try and take a look at just what it truly was i was doing so that i could make a mathematical analysis of my play (prompted by Kasi) i discover that no such analysis is possible because the true nature of my play wasn't in line with orthodox play. facts were (as i some how convienently forgot) that in the early going i'd completely misunderstood and mixed up key aspects of what i was really supposed to be doing in an orthodox sense. but winning money like crazy so it all seemed good to me. ok what ever but then ok i go to another better count system. start using that. make money like crazy. guess what? wasn't doing that system correctly at first either. lmao. ok finally maybe start doing that system according to hoyle. but wait hoyle wasn't really hoyle or maybe it really was by luck because i find out i didn't really understand the sim i was playing too. (that convienently forgotten as well). that's just the half of it. turns out i even had some slots play mixed in with those results (again convienently overlooked) and enough steam plays to power a small city lol (again convienently overlooked). i could go on but if your not getting the point by now it would be futile. thing is i've got the books, i've read every knowledgeable poster on this site and loads of others. i've got the software. i may even have half of a half of a clue as to what advantage play is. so but in the final analysis it turns out bojack is right. when you really look at what your doing it may not be quite so great as you assume. so if you and bojack and others can do it great. how you wade through all the variables i'll never know. just the realities and lack there of of an ideal or next to ideal casino environments it's self is enough to throw me off a well layed gameplan.
what ever. so but at my age, intellectual capabilities and tolerance level for the stress associated with orthodox play i'll settle for the luck and a 0.10% advantage if i can manage to even qualifiy myself for that. lmao.
it's just for me still fun cause there are times when the birds singing sound sweeter, music seems more meaningul, the sky is bluer and friends more endearing. just all a result of a little fleeting luck. :violin:

blackchipjim said:

Say what, if you never had the advantage kick your butt then I don't think you play all that often. I've had advantage out the ying yang and still drew bust hand after bust hand. In the long run yes I will come out ahead but the frog is talking about losing streaks that seem to never end. Anyone that has played for long a time can attest to the fact. I have had dream sessions and nightmare ones the math tells you what the eventually outcome will be but the riding can get to even a seasoned vet.

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exactly. i don't know about anyone else but the world i live in has a clock in it that ticks sometimes painfully slowly and at others spins like somethin outa Back to the Future the movie.
and nobody with any sense wants to argue with the math especially in a casino. lmao those clocks i'm talkin bout tick according to the math in a casino. just still i know my pockets or my courage or my intellectual capability isn't deep enough to convince me that the eventual outcome is gonna be what i've hoped for and calculated. oh it would be if my pockets and courage and skill was deep enough. but for me my instincts, emotions and signals from my guts that i can't control anymore than i can stop breathing simply don't believe or even begin to understand the math. it's for me like Arnold's sermon say they will make it but not me.
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/wontwin.html

A math nerd is a badge of honor were I come from even though I don't posess the mental ability to do the math I respect you for your knowledge. Without the math nerds we would be left to our own device. blackchipjim:band:

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exactly. especially in a casino. the avenger deserves a hats off accolades and the utmost respect. :1st::whip:
we just gotta help dude with his women problems. lmao.
hey jim with our fifty plus years of experience neither one of us has a clue as to how to help the vengeful one to get lucky do we? lmao.

lucky ducks

I have to laugh at the outcomes of some games i get into sometimes. My wife loves to walk up to me with a 600 winning ticket on the damn slot machine win. I sit patiently at the table grinding away, chipping away at the casinos bankroll then she strolls up and waves the ticket at me. I start laughing and shake my head at her amazing _____. You fill in the blank with what word. I wouldn't trade my wife for the world because she has a better understanding of what we do than we do. You know the old saying better to be lucky in love than...... blackhipjim

blackchipjim said:

I have to laugh at the outcomes of some games i get into sometimes. My wife loves to walk up to me with a 600 winning ticket on the damn slot machine win. I sit patiently at the table grinding away, chipping away at the casinos bankroll then she strolls up and waves the ticket at me. I start laughing and shake my head at her amazing _____. You fill in the blank with what word. I wouldn't trade my wife for the world because she has a better understanding of what we do than we do. You know the old saying better to be lucky in love than...... blackhipjim

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yeah better to laugh about it and enjoy it than to try and explain it. something would be lost in the explaination lol. it's those sort of things that happen in a casino or anywhere else for that matter that i want to grab a hold of and savor. that's the profitable stuff that happens that you know about in the here and now instead of maybe ninety trips later. usually it takes you by suprise but you sure know it for what it is when it happens. something that has tangible value and it comes about maybe for no apparent known reason. maybe like where you was chipping away at the casinos bankroll you could compare that $600 ticket of your wife's to your expectation for the time you spent grinding. maybe consider that an unexpected bonus. that and the laughter being something worth holding onto and appreciated. heck probably any of us would pay several times over a few hours or so of our expectations value for something that provided those kinds of feelings and value if we could buy it.

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I have to laugh at the outcomes of some games i get into sometimes. My wife loves to walk up to me with a 600 winning ticket on the damn slot machine win. I sit patiently at the table grinding away, chipping away at the casinos bankroll then she strolls up and waves the ticket at me. I start laughing and shake my head at her amazing _____. You fill in the blank with what word. I wouldn't trade my wife for the world because she has a better understanding of what we do than we do. You know the old saying better to be lucky in love than...... blackhipji

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Well, last Friday my wife won $350 against the one arm bandit ( slot) while I won $45 in two shoes. Then we came back the next day and my wife won $120 while I won $80 in 3.5 shoes.

ricopuno said:

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Well, last Friday my wife won $350 against the one arm bandit ( slot) while I won $45 in two shoes. Then we came back the next day and my wife won $120 while I won $80 in 3.5 shoes.

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probably one of my most memorable lucky events was on my 26th session of blackjack play on the 30th of June in 2005. i was playing a five dollar table csm s17das game. think it was six decks in the dreaded machine. i dunno i had this idea that if i saw a bunch of low cards come out that i'd go from $5 to $30. i knew i shouldn't of been playing those evil csm's but i was doing it anyway. well things got to going from having some nice wins to down right losing almost my whole trip roll. so i got to steaming. i think i bet a $100 on one hand and won that. i can't remmember exactly how it came about but i was just steaming and eventually ended the night up $330. that's my biggest session win ever out of 226 sessions most of which i've actually knuckled down and tryed to play orthodox the way a card counter is supposed to.

sagefr0g said:

probably one of my most memorable lucky events was on my 26th session of blackjack play on the 30th of June in 2005. i was playing a five dollar table csm s17das game. think it was six decks in the dreaded machine. i dunno i had this idea that if i saw a bunch of low cards come out that i'd go from $5 to $30. i knew i shouldn't of been playing those evil csm's but i was doing it anyway. well things got to going from having some nice wins to down right losing almost my whole trip roll. so i got to steaming. i think i bet a $100 on one hand and won that. i can't remmember exactly how it came about but i was just steaming and eventually ended the night up $330. that's my biggest session win ever out of 226 sessions most of which i've actually knuckled down and tryed to play orthodox the way a card counter is supposed to.

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I had an extremely lucky incident in a casino a few years back. I was playing blackjack with my team this night and was playing the BP role. As I wandered about waiting for call ins I kept noticing this stunningly hot girl playing roulette. Sometimes I would stand by her as if I was interested in the game as I waited for a spotters call in. We made small talk a bit, but I was never around long enough for much else.

Anyway my session of blackjack ends and I meet up with my team to go over stats and money and set up for a new session the next day. After this I decide to go back to the casino where the girl was to see if she was still there. I brought just $400 of my own money to play at the table she was at and hope to meet her. She was still there when I got back there. I got 4 black chips and just bet the outside $100 at at time while striking up a conversation with her. Not even really paying too much attention to the money, I started winning. I would occasionally put down a 2 or $300 bet as my winnings grew, but I really was more involved with chatting up this girl then the game. Well after about a little more than an hour I had won $8000. With that I left the casino with the nice win, and more importantly the hot girl as well. That was pure luck at its best, and yes I'll take it.

To be noted, this was before my current relationsip situation that I'm in now. No need for any misconceptions by the future Mrs. Bojack if she happens to read this.