sagefr0g
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edit:Bojack1 said:Luck cannot be summoned at will whether it be good luck or bad, but I do believe that there are certain components that need to be in place to experience the frequency in which luck will strike you.
so like if those certain components aren't in place you'll maybe never know what hit you. that is i guess if you want the Gates kind of luck as opposed to the lottery guy's luck. the lottery guy knows but not many folks would know the Gates sort of luck unless they had the sort of attributes he has.
edit:Take for example 2 wealthy men. One is a powerball or mega millions lottery winner, the other is say Bill Gates. Now to win the lottery we all must agree that requires tremendous luck. You can try to win, you can have many systems that you feel give you the best chance to win, you can try through attrition of buying as many tickets as possible, but the bottomline is it is almost an impossiblity to win it. But all that is needed is some luck and you are instantly a multi millionare.
Now with case of Bill Gates he needs luck too right. He needed somebody to believe a college dropout could give the world something they couldn't seem to live without. He had to have vision, intelligence, design, perserverance, the technical skills and the courage to pull it off. He had all the tools to make a world changing development, but without a little luck you know what would have happened....He still would've become the richest SOB on the planet.
right he had the vision to see the black swan that everyone else was blind too. and he knew what to do with the darned thing.
and courage yeah kind of like the risk issue. lol i think he sold the dos operating system before he even owned it sort of thing.
then i think he kind of out foxed Apple when they were busy out foxing xerox lol. what a story. so he had vision and figured out what to do with it.
edit:Thats because luck can change the course in which you get to your destiny, but if you are truly prepared and committed you can still get where you were going. Of course if you are that lottery winner and instead of being the winner today, you're not, well your course has been changed and there is very little hope you will find it.
luck can change the course in which you get to your destiny. interesting statement and i think one that can be taken a lot of differant ways. thing i'm interested in that regard is the idea that maybe luck could be a (my new word of the week) heiuristic (means shortcut if i spelled it right lmao) as well as something that could be taken advantage of.
edit:There are all type of deep philosphies to describe things we don't fully understand. The deeper the reasoning tries to become usually the more lost the truth becomes. Simplicity is wasted on the ignorant. And weakness will breed complexity.
thats exactly what Taleb's book The Black Swan is saying about the phenomenon of luck and uncertainty.
edit:We all have been guilty at one time or another of trying to get out of something we don't want to do. More times than not the act of avoidance is much harder than the act we needed to address to begin with.
lol i knew that was comming. guilty as charged. but at least i'm trying to find a way easier not harder.
lol i thought that was what a noun was. descriptive of a person, place or thing sort of situation. but yeah lets take the voodoo out of luck it's a really thing. maybe not even as voodoo as the mystery of the universe if there really is a mystery of the universe as opposed to being some sort of really strange question. lolLuck is just a word. I don't agree that it is a noun. I believe it is descriptive of a situation but it is not any kind of entity or force.
edit:Bottomline is, I feel to a degree we can control luck to the point if we have it of course it helps, and if we don't well then it just delays the inevitable that we've prepared for. If one is not prepared and relies more on luck than their own skill, the results will be as fleeting as luck itself. In which case the inevitable then usually results in failure, or what commonly referred to as bad luck. I do not think it is a coincidence that those with the most success in whatever field they excel in seem to be the luckiest. Bad breaks, or "bad luck" befalls everyone at some point. But its all relative to the outcome and your preparation for it.
can't argue with that bojack! like i think a good example of that thought is the idea attributed to Don Schelsinger about " if they don't get you early on they just might not get you" sort of thing. luck could very well be a part of such a scenerio. thank your for your response. end edit sort of...
there we have it ladies and gentlemen. an 'elder statesman's' genuine real advantage player professional take on luck!
and if you believe Taleb in his book Black Swan it is the elder statesman types that might just have a clue.
now if we could get a few more (zg, Ken, ihate17, automonk, shadrock and others my feeble memory fails to mention) to chime in. and Sonny too since maybe not elder but wise beyond his years.
i'd comment on bojack's statement but i gotta go play some blackjack for now. <<=== edit: i'm back. i guess i was lucky. won $27. :cool2:
maybe even RJT will chime in now that the magic name has been invoked. :joker: