Are some APs "luckier" than others?

Jacob

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FrankieT said:
Single decker with surrender option, LMFAO....this isn't any time in the last 30 years, right?

By all means, please shoot me a PM explaining where this single decker with surrender is if such a mythological beast should exist :)

Excuse me for leaving out some minor details:

1) that trip report was less than a month old, and now he "works at" European casinos

2) that single decker with surrender option was taken out shortly there after the barring. However, without the baiting-single-decker, the casino still brags about these come ons:

"... the best Blackjack rules in the country: certified Loosest Blackjack... chipless Blackjack...double-deck and six-deck shoes...and rated the "Best Blackjack Game"... by Casino Player Magazine... [what the casino doesn't tell players is this: It throws players' asses out the door when players win with actual skills, :laugh:"]
 

Lonesome Gambler

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I thought Jacob was pretty clear about what casino this was. You may want to reread the post! And Jacob, that casino advertises all of those things, but they have also been pretty clear about the fact that they have a skilled team on board that understands advantage play and will take action when needed.
 

aslan

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Eye of the Tiger said:
You could still be a loser for the rest of your life and never run out of your bankroll how would that sit with you? So your statement if not true.
You are assuming my motive for playing is profit. ;) But you're right to the extent that I don't want to lose money. Frankly, if I break even, I'm happy. I relish the social aspects of the game, meeting people from all over the world, the excitement (which does not occur that often), the free rooms in first class hotels, the free meals, dollar comps, free shows, and other giveaways. I bring my wife and it's a nice outing, her shopping, me playing, and then a nice meal and show, courtesy of the house. What's there not to like? If I win money, that's icing on the cake. If I played for a living and not recreationally, that would be a different story.

Besides, if you never had luck, good or bad, your skill would decide your fate, and would describe a straight line according to your expected win rate, as it is when luck evens up and cancels out in the long run, except you won't have to wait for the long run. Of course, no luck is impossible. As the gambler moans and groans, "If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all!"
 
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aslan

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Automatic Monkey said:
Yeah, I have that problem, my long-term wins tend to have a high correlation with being followed by purchases of new boats or trucks! :cool2:

Which leads to a philosophical question- would you rather be a green chipper with a new boat and truck or a black chipper without those things?
Touche.
 

blackjack avenger

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empire building

Automatic Monkey said:
Yeah, I have that problem, my long-term wins tend to have a high correlation with being followed by purchases of new boats or trucks! :cool2:

Which leads to a philosophical question- would you rather be a green chipper with a new boat and truck or a black chipper without those things?
Isn't there a growth faze of an enterprise when u want to reinvest all.

Followed by the dividend faze when u can withdraw without harming the enterprise?

I am thinking about 1/8 Kelly or higher and bets are approaching table max with a low N0 spread then one can make withdrawals on any win over the bank.

One can apply the expense formula and take withdrawals over time, but at the cost of future income and increases risk of drawdown.

Delayed gratification is greater gratification?
 

aslan

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If one has totally replenishible bankroll, spending win money is no problem. Does it matter whether it comes out of the left pocket or the right pocket?
 

Dyepaintball12

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Billy C1 said:
I think we can presume that both AM and Dye are joking and that both would agree that DISCIPLINE is a requirement for successful AP!:)

BillyC1
Hell no! I "live off" my bankroll so there is no separation of bankroll and other monies. When I win a lot, I can enjoy it some of that money while still increasing the roll!
 
FrankieT said:
Single decker with surrender option, LMFAO....this isn't any time in the last 30 years, right?

By all means, please shoot me a PM explaining where this single decker with surrender is if such a mythological beast should exist :)
Sparks NV, Topaz Lake NV, San Diego CA. Played them all!
 
Dyepaintball12 said:
Hell no! I "live off" my bankroll so there is no separation of bankroll and other monies. When I win a lot, I can enjoy it some of that money while still increasing the roll!
And I'm the exact opposite, with a decent salary so I can spend my bankroll on anything I want (or more likely, lose it at the table!), and I'll have another one in a month.
 

Dyepaintball12

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Automatic Monkey said:
And I'm the exact opposite, with a decent salary so I can spend my bankroll on anything I want (or more likely, lose it at the table!), and I'll have another one in a month.
What's your incentive to play then?
 

Eye of the Tiger

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aslan said:
You are assuming my motive for playing is profit. ;) But you're right to the extent that I don't want to lose money. Frankly, if I break even, I'm happy. I relish the social aspects of the game, meeting people from all over the world, the excitement (which does not occur that often), the free rooms in first class hotels, the free meals, dollar comps, free shows, and other giveaways. I bring my wife and it's a nice outing, her shopping, me playing, and then a nice meal and show, courtesy of the house. What's there not to like? If I win money, that's icing on the cake. If I played for a living and not recreationally, that would be a different story.

Besides, if you never had luck, good or bad, your skill would decide your fate, and would describe a straight line according to your expected win rate, as it is when luck evens up and cancels out in the long run, except you won't have to wait for the long run. Of course, no luck is impossible. As the gambler moans and groans, "If I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all!"
Here is a little story about luck. I was playing BJ at the casino. I had a $400 hundred dollar bet out there as luck would have it I got a ten and a 4 for a total of 14 against a dealers face card. It looked real bad but the dealer flashed her hole card and I seen it plain as day it was a 4. She had a ten and a four for a total of 14. I thought what a lucky break we both have 14 so I waved the hit and stayed she drew a 7 for 21 and swept up my money. The point is was I lucky or unlucky to see the hole card ? I think unlucky otherwise I hit and get 21 and have $800 for in my pocket. Luck plays a big of a part of this game.
 
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aslan

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Eye of the Tiger said:
Here is a little story about luck. I was playing BJ at the casino. I had a $400 hundred dollar bet out there as luck would have it I got a ten and a 4 for a total of 14 against a dealers face card. It looked real bad but the dealer flashed her hole card and I seen it plain as day it was a 4. She had a ten and a four for a total of 14. I thought what a lucky break we both have 14 so I waved the hit and stayed she drew a 7 for 21 and swept up my money. The point is was I lucky or unlucky to see the hole card ? I think unlucky otherwise I hit and get 21 and have $800 for in my pocket. Luck plays a big of a part of this game.
It most certainly does. All you can do is play the odds and grin and bear it, whatever happens.
 

blackjack avenger

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joined at the hip

aslan said:
If one has totally replenishible bankroll, spending win money is no problem. Does it matter whether it comes out of the left pocket or the right pocket?
Sure, then its probably important to try to play at a consistent level, to not let withdraws force a temporary lowering of bets. So one can reach the long run.
 

aslan

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blackjack avenger said:
Sure, then its probably important to try to play at a consistent level, to not let withdraws force a temporary lowering of bets. So one can reach the long run.
T-o-t-a-l-l-y r-e-p-l-e-n-i-s-h-i-b-l-e. Not a problem.
 
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