Blackjack rules in eastern Europe

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Charles Wells

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Hilton in Prague

One of my nicest wins in Europe was at the Hilton.

They had the rules you mention but the dealer only cut 1 deck from six, sometimes less.

There was zero heat (played aggressively when the TC was high, spread 1-20, won 18K euro)

I also played in euro chips and they gave me a private table.

I would recommend this place highly. Very professional staff.
 
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jojo123

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These are the games you would find in Bulgaria if you are ever in Eastern Europe
6 decks, early surrender except against ace (no hole card), double any 2 cards, re-split to 4 and double after split, split on aces- 1 split, 1 card,no BJ
Where I live there's even a game with re-split aces and very low limits, which is virtually a free game even without counting (I reckon it's a 0.2% game)
Some casinos use shuffling machines now but some still have shoe games, penetration is about 70-75%. Heat is low but if they ever suspect anyone is counting they'll give you 50% or 3 out of 6 decks.
I'm not much into counting but I consider myself a perfect basic strategy player. However would you recommend Ace/Five for this game, or should I stick to High-Low if I wanted to count cards (I have no interest in more complex card counting systems)
 
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jojo123

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usual table spreads here in Bulgaria are 5-300, 25-1000 or 100-2000 (some play with euro chips, some even have $, most use Bulgarian money, depends on the casino)
my best local game is 2-1000 which is counting heaven if i get someone to deal out 5/6 decks. But I'm very sure they'll get me if i start out betting 2 and raise to 500-1000, plus it's a really small friendly casino.
 
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Brock Windsor

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jojo123 said:
usual table spreads here in Bulgaria are 5-300, 25-1000 or 100-2000 (some play with euro chips, some even have $, most use Bulgarian money, depends on the casino)
my best local game is 2-1000 which is counting heaven if i get someone to deal out 5/6 decks. But I'm very sure they'll get me if i start out betting 2 and raise to 500-1000, plus it's a really small friendly casino.
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I recommend KO for your first count. Thinking a casino is there to be your friend is a dangerous mindset and lets you justify giving them money. Matthew 7:15 always applies.
-BW
 
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21forme

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jojo123 said:
usual table spreads here in Bulgaria are 5-300, 25-1000 or 100-2000 (some play with euro chips, some even have $, most use Bulgarian money, depends on the casino)
my best local game is 2-1000 which is counting heaven if i get someone to deal out 5/6 decks. But I'm very sure they'll get me if i start out betting 2 and raise to 500-1000, plus it's a really small friendly casino.
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What are the hours for the table games?

I stopped at a few casinos in Sunny Beach last year in mid-afternoon and none of the table games were open.
 
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jojo123

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I still haven't visited casinos along the seaside, I'm surprised to hear they won't take action during the day. Where I live we have 24 hour table games.
I never think the casino is my friend because I know the games are designed with a house advantage. But I am someone who likes to go out and spend time at casinos and by playing low-limit blackjack, flat-betting and using perfect strategy ALL the time I pay a small price.
 
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curt1s

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Casinos in Hungary

Hey

i would like to share some infos about the game in Budapest/Hungary
there are currently two casinos in Budapest, Las Vegas Casino (24/7) and Tropicana Casino (12-6am). Hungarian Forint and Euro tables ( 2euro(max200)-5euro(max500)-25euro(max1000) tables )
6 deck game, s17 das, AA split only once, insurance.
penetration is about 65-75%, double riffle - good for counting and aces

cheap accommodation

curt1s
 
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Rover

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Forget it

These casinos are highly paranoiac and ban everyone suspected of counting, barred in one you are banned from the three, they keep in touch with eachother.
 
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jojo123

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Hello again from Bulgaria, I found some new games in my home town and in the capital Sofia. A nice local 24/7 casino just introduced an electronic BJ table with a live dealer and a 6-deck shoe, new dealers are instructed to cut 1.5-2 decks and the game is somewhat slow but you'll be playing alone 95% of the time, they have some more experienced dealers which cut 5/6 with the manager looking and I spread 1-8, won 60 units and they even gave me tickets to a cash prize game (which I almost won, I had to pick 2 numbers on the roulette and if I guessed they would pay me 900 leva- 450 euro).
The other game is more interesting and I'd like to get in touch with someone who can analyze it and give me some tips on basic strategy: 6 decks, DOA, DAS, S17, no hole card, surrender after double, ALWAYS (not only first 2 cards) surrender against any dealer card (except ace), surrender hard 16 vs dealer ace. It's a shuffle machine game, but it's all these rules don't you have the advantage off the top?
 
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jnrwilliam

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jojo123 said:
Hello again from Bulgaria, I found some new games in my home town and in the capital Sofia. A nice local 24/7 casino just introduced an electronic BJ table with a live dealer and a 6-deck shoe, new dealers are instructed to cut 1.5-2 decks and the game is somewhat slow but you'll be playing alone 95% of the time, they have some more experienced dealers which cut 5/6 with the manager looking and I spread 1-8, won 60 units and they even gave me tickets to a cash prize game (which I almost won, I had to pick 2 numbers on the roulette and if I guessed they would pay me 900 leva- 450 euro).
The other game is more interesting and I'd like to get in touch with someone who can analyze it and give me some tips on basic strategy: 6 decks, DOA, DAS, S17, no hole card, surrender after double, ALWAYS (not only first 2 cards) surrender against any dealer card (except ace), surrender hard 16 vs dealer ace. It's a shuffle machine game, but it's all these rules don't you have the advantage off the top?
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surr ONLY 16 vs A, but not 12-15?
it is more or less a even game, roughly cal.
Surrr after DD n multi card surr earn about 0.22% extra.
 
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jnrwilliam

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jojo123 said:
hello again from bulgaria, i found some new games in my home town and in the capital sofia. A nice local 24/7 casino just introduced an electronic bj table with a live dealer and a 6-deck shoe, new dealers are instructed to cut 1.5-2 decks and the game is somewhat slow but you'll be playing alone 95% of the time, they have some more experienced dealers which cut 5/6 with the manager looking and i spread 1-8, won 60 units and they even gave me tickets to a cash prize game (which i almost won, i had to pick 2 numbers on the roulette and if i guessed they would pay me 900 leva- 450 euro).
The other game is more interesting and i'd like to get in touch with someone who can analyze it and give me some tips on basic strategy: 6 decks, doa, das, s17, no hole card, surrender after double, always (not only first 2 cards) surrender against any dealer card (except ace), surrender hard 16 vs dealer ace. It's a shuffle machine game, but it's all these rules don't you have the advantage off the top?
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csm 126???
 
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Mr Twentyone

Member
jojo123 said:
Hello again from Bulgaria, I found some new games in my home town and in the capital Sofia. A nice local 24/7 casino just introduced an electronic BJ table with a live dealer and a 6-deck shoe, new dealers are instructed to cut 1.5-2 decks and the game is somewhat slow but you'll be playing alone 95% of the time, they have some more experienced dealers which cut 5/6 with the manager looking and I spread 1-8, won 60 units and they even gave me tickets to a cash prize game (which I almost won, I had to pick 2 numbers on the roulette and if I guessed they would pay me 900 leva- 450 euro).
The other game is more interesting and I'd like to get in touch with someone who can analyze it and give me some tips on basic strategy: 6 decks, DOA, DAS, S17, no hole card, surrender after double, ALWAYS (not only first 2 cards) surrender against any dealer card (except ace), surrender hard 16 vs dealer ace. It's a shuffle machine game, but it's all these rules don't you have the advantage off the top?
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Just to be clear as I'm a little confused...

You can surrender 16 v Ace but no other hand v Ace?
Can you resplit Aces?

I can only guess the House edge otherwise, yes it will be slightly off the top.

I have the full strategy for super surrender, plus the house edge with the above questions, I'll PM it to you...
 
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jojo123

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Yes, only surrender first 2 card hard 16 vs ace
What is csm 126, they have shuffle master, 6 decks, and deal out about 1-1.5 decks before returning the cards to the csm
on aces- 1 split, 1 card, no BJ
Please send me the strategy to [email protected]
 
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jnrwilliam

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jojo123 said:
Yes, only surrender first 2 card hard 16 vs ace
What is csm 126, they have shuffle master, 6 decks, and deal out about 1-1.5 decks before returning the cards to the csm
on aces- 1 split, 1 card, no BJ
Please send me the strategy to [email protected]
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u earn extra 0.1-0.2% from Surr 16 vs Ace
 
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jojo123

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I'll soon visit this casino again and will again check for the re-split on aces
What would you suggest as a total bankroll to play this games flat-betting with the edge off-the-top
I have ways to find enough money and hit them

I played at this casino today, it turned out it is allowed to re-split aces AND you can surrender each hand if you like after the split
 
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