counting doesn't work

[Sharky]

I agree daddybo, you can't think in terms of money or you are lost. A good game will yield so many units with proper play. Take away any of the positive variables and add bad play and emotion and you will lose. Too many aps fall by the wayside because of any of the above. You can play for toothpicks and amound a big pile after playing good. Introduce money as the unit and our attitude changes and so does alot of people's play.:grin:

anyone employing a different a strategy based on the $$$ is playing beyond their means (BR).

 

[Jack_Black]

It has everything to do with money when it's my money I'm talking about.

when we are talking about samples and numbers of trials, we are talking about play time, and number of hands, hands played@+TC, etc. So it doesn't have anything to do with money. I'm pretty sure that's where the confusion is.

 

[kewljason]

I'm sure several others share the same sentiment . . . but I feel that Atlantic City is a pretty tough place to be really successful unless your game is really tight and you have great discipline and money management skills (see: kewljason)

. . . if you are mobile, try travelling to venues where there are a lot of pitch games . . . you may well see much better results!

I think you will get no arguement from anyone on AC games, shabby. Especially at the low level $10 and almost extint $5 games that if I recall correctly, Billythekid was playing. Most likely H17, 8 deck games played at a full table. Hard to make any money that way. If you can play $25 or $50 tables in AC you have a slightly better chance, but after 6 years of playing mostly AC games, this year even I am headed west for browner pastures. :laugh:

 

[Seaclusion]

After more than 30 years of play, I can guarantee that counting works. It just doesn't always yeild a positive outcome. Just a positive outcome over time.

I had an almost three year flat run with mostly down sessions back in the early nineties. But, am still up overall.

Up 8 units today for about three hours play. A little below expectation, but still acceptable.

 

[shiznites]

after 2 losing trips to atlantic city this year, plus 9 trips last summer resulting in a net loss, I am convinced card counting is a bunch a crap. Anyone saying they make a living is just full of BS. The only people making any money are the people on here hawking books, classes and software products. You all are in on this too I presume. Shame on you

LOL Billythekid and Leaveawinner should form an all-star team!

You shouldn't even get involved in counting unless you have a BR of 1200 units to sustain the swings.

 

[Krak3d]

Let me guess, you weren't wearing your lucky charm?

Counting works, it's nothing to be proven, it's fact. Sometimes you lose, but you'll get those back in the long run, with profit if you play it correctly. Now run along.

 

[StandardDeviant]

after 2 losing trips to atlantic city this year, plus 9 trips last summer resulting in a net loss, I am convinced card counting is a bunch a crap. Anyone saying they make a living is just full of BS. The only people making any money are the people on here hawking books, classes and software products. You all are in on this too I presume. Shame on you

Who knew that BillytheBJkid was smart enough to figure out that counting is a sham?! :laugh:

To this point I simply thought he was another doe-eyed newbie wandering into an endeavor that he was neither emotionally or intellectually prepared to handle.

Billy, don't be a hero, quit while you are (almost) ahead.

 

[blackjack avenger]

This is Why

Casinos should not bar counters, most lose
Casinos should have deep cuts, they would make more money:joker::whip:

Simple proof?
counting has been around for a long time
it led to the boom of casinos and all the table games; including bj, profits.

 

[KOLAN]

after 2 losing trips to atlantic city this year, plus 9 trips last summer resulting in a net loss, I am convinced card counting is a bunch a crap. Anyone saying they make a living is just full of BS. The only people making any money are the people on here hawking books, classes and software products. You all are in on this too I presume. Shame on you

take look casino verite sims
to win good money in bj you need big capital
if i good this capital- i can find easy way , to make money .

 

[beating vegas]

yes it does

first of all cardcounting will work. as long as you have a proper bankroll know your indecs and understand its the long run . there is alot more things then just counting bottom line .

 

[kewljason]

take look casino verite sims
to win good money in bj you need big capital
if i good this capital- i can find easy way , to make money .

Hey, there's our old friend Kolan! Haven't seen you post in a while, hope all is well.

As for BillytheKid, it seems he has or had unrealistically high expectations to begin with and was and still is certainly unprepared both knoweledge-wise and bankroll wise for his endevor. I know I tried to help and advise him as did Flash, Matt21 and maybe a few others, but was met with resistance and rudeness.

 

[21gunsalute]

I agree daddybo, you can't think in terms of money or you are lost. A good game will yield so many units with proper play. Take away any of the positive variables and add bad play and emotion and you will lose. Too many aps fall by the wayside because of any of the above. You can play for toothpicks and amound a big pile after playing good. Introduce money as the unit and our attitude changes and so does alot of people's play.:grin:

So you guys just play for the fun of it and not for the money, eh? I don't think I quite believe that. Emotions won't affect the outcome one way or another since there really isn't any decision making involved when counting. We know what we're supposed to bet when, and know when to hit, stand split and double. The rest is up to how the cards fall and whether I have ice water in my veins or I'm jumpy and jittery isn't going to affect how the cards come out one iota.

 

[bjcount]

after 2 losing trips to atlantic city this year, plus 9 trips last summer resulting in a net loss, I am convinced card counting is a bunch a crap. Anyone saying they make a living is just full of BS. The only people making any money are the people on here hawking books, classes and software products. You all are in on this too I presume. Shame on you

Billy the Kid, you got us. Your right, counting doesn't work. Shame on us. All those brilliant professors and doctors spending their life playing with numbers and greek letters... well they just get paid by the casinos to create a huge hoax.

Make us believe we can win... darn! now you really burst my bubble! Maybe I should start playing slots and the lottery instead....

Thanks alot Billy... sniffle.. sniffle...:cry:

BJC

Is this thread getting old yet?

 

[daddybo]

So you guys just play for the fun of it and not for the money, eh? I don't think I quite believe that. Emotions won't affect the outcome one way or another since there really isn't any decision making involved when counting. We know what we're supposed to bet when, and know when to hit, stand split and double. The rest is up to how the cards fall and whether I have ice water in my veins or I'm jumpy and jittery isn't going to affect how the cards come out one iota.

Boy, do you have a lot to learn.

 

[Deathclutch]

Why are posts being deleted?

 

[daddybo]

I noticed that too.

 

[Jack_Black]

icountntrack is getting trigger happy with the delete and lock button. what the hell!! he locked the HO2 vs zen discussion!. He's probably gonna delete this post too.


BOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Jack_Black]

So you guys just play for the fun of it and not for the money, eh? I don't think I quite believe that. Emotions won't affect the outcome one way or another since there really isn't any decision making involved when counting. We know what we're supposed to bet when, and know when to hit, stand split and double. The rest is up to how the cards fall and whether I have ice water in my veins or I'm jumpy and jittery isn't going to affect how the cards come out one iota.

OK, you're absolutely right. So why the hell do you keep posting on here if you have it ALL figured out?

 

[Sonny]

Why are posts being deleted?

That was me. The post that you responded to has been debunked several times already. It has a long and painful history here. Instead of allowing the thread to continue down the same misguided road it always goes (which always ends with flaming and eventually locking the thread), or banning the user for starting it up again, I decided just to delete it before it got out of hand.

I've been taking a more active role in keeping the board clean lately, but members like you don't have to worry about anything. I'll only be deleting empty claims and blatantly false information from the usual repeat offenders.

-Sonny-

 

[Deathclutch]

That was me. The post that you responded to has been debunked several times already. It has a long and painful history here. Instead of allowing the thread to continue down the same misguided road it always goes (which always ends with flaming and eventually locking the thread), or banning the user for starting it up again, I decided just to delete it before it got out of hand.

I've been taking a more active role in keeping the board clean lately, but members like you don't have to worry about anything. I'll only be deleting empty claims and blatantly false information from the usual repeat offenders.

-Sonny-

Thank for the clarification Sonny. It was just strange because that person had just mentioned posts dissapearing, haha.