boneuphtoner
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Are the currently offered DD games at Bellagio, Mirage, and TI pitched faced down or face up?
Not true, Wynn/Encore are face up and have been for a while, it is correct you still cannot touch the cards. Also the min bet is still between 300 to 500 with S17, and 75% Pen and 3:2 BJchichow said:Many MGM shops deal face up.
Other shops like Venetian/Palazzo and Wynn/Encore deal face down and you touch the cards.
ChefJJ said:$25 minimums?
Thanks in advance.
Not a 100% true. Wynn/Encore dealt face up for their h17 DD game, at least by Jan this year. Mandalay Bay dealt DD game face down when I visited there last month. All three op mentioned casinos have their DD game face up.chichow said:Many MGM shops deal face up.
Other shops like Venetian/Palazzo and Wynn/Encore deal face down and you touch the cards.
Never mind. I found the answer.darco77 said:Do any of these properties offer DD S17 at $25? The cbjn list on the Wizard's site shows some, but it's a few months old now.
I'm sure they watch the DD games much more carefully than the shoes. I played their 6D/S17 $25+ games pretty aggressively for many hours over a weekend this year and had no heat.aslan said:I was talking with someone who claimed card counters avoid the Mirage. Do many of you play there? I think $25 and less would be totally underneath their radar, but they claim any decent size bettors rarely play there. I was wondering if that was just a baseless self-promoting brag, or if they are that good as to discourage counters from wasting their time?![]()
I heard rumors of all of those places. You're right that the high rollers would get much more scrutiny of course, but the rumors I heard was that they're getting aggressive toward even the green chippers. I think there's a thread or two on this site about it.aslan said:Which property? For some of their properties they have a lot bigger fish to fry, like this guy who bets $150,000 in one hand, or the Department Store owner who counts, or the Asians who throw $2 million in an attempt to win $25 million. So some guy like me betting $25 or $50 is not even a blip, unless of course its an extremely slow day, or the pit calls the eye with a heads up. The way it was explained to me, they may catch you "casing" the game at $25 or $50 with the intention of coming back tomorrow and withdrawing $30 or $40 thousand. So they err on the side of caution and back you off when they observe you counting even if you seem like a penny ante player.
So is this to say if you have played their DD on 3 visits now (many sessions during each visit), that you may be under the radar?FLASH1296 said:The Mirage DD games for $25 minimums ARE closely monitored, as they are at all of the NV M.G.M. properties.
They tend to evaluate your play after you depart if they suspect that you know what you are doing.
The polite "backoff" often accompanies inexperienced Card Counters on their 2nd visit IF they had played the tasty $25 DD games.