H17 8 deck games
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Just think of S-17 in reverse terms. What does BS tell the player to do with an A-6. Either hit or dd, right? In other words BS is telling you than a soft 17 is still an incomplete hand and needs to be improved, so forcing the dealer to stand on such a hand has to be beneficial to the player while hitting it would be the correct move.
8 decks is bad because less time is spent in the end of the shoe where the count fluctuates more rapidly. You'll see fewer high true counts, therefore less opportunities to bet large at an advantage.
Let us look at a 6 deck shoe. Nothing much usually happens in the first two decks, right? In my experience, it does not.
With 8 decks, that adds another two decks at the beginning where not much is likely to happen. All of those bets at near neutral counts cost the player money.
Let us look at a 6 deck shoe. Nothing much usually happens in the first two decks, right? In my experience, it does not.
With 8 decks, that adds another two decks at the beginning where not much is likely to happen. All of those bets at near neutral counts cost the player money.
Hit 17 is especially beneficial to the dealer because a lot of the time players will have already busted out and the players left will likely have 17 or better. The dealer is most likely to get soft 17 showing an ace up. Plus if the dealer had a 6 up and you had hands of 15 and 18 that you stayed on the dealer will beat your 18 more often than it will lose to the 15 hitting it out.
Flash
IMHO it may be playable for a very few, but for most not playable. I think a great disservice is done to new players to lead them to believe that this type of game is anything but junk and worth their valuable time and money.
Unless you are a very skilled tracker with a big bank...lets cut out this Bull s***.
CP
IMHO it may be playable for a very few, but for most not playable. I think a great disservice is done to new players to lead them to believe that this type of game is anything but junk and worth their valuable time and money.
Unless you are a very skilled tracker with a big bank...lets cut out this Bull s***.
CP
exactly, just anyone not capable of playing like a computer to the extreme for long periods of time with a bankroll most could only dream of and then willing to risk all of that bankroll, foughetaboutit. lol.
these levels of games are only any good for some 'playful' nipping at the heals sort of thing for most predators, lmao.
if it's all that's available, just 'jones' the game using some 'street smart' play taking what you can get or losing as little as possible. in other words just try and make it a learning experience that hopefully you get paid a little for
or that you don't pay to much for.
these levels of games are only any good for some 'playful' nipping at the heals sort of thing for most predators, lmao.
if it's all that's available, just 'jones' the game using some 'street smart' play taking what you can get or losing as little as possible. in other words just try and make it a learning experience that hopefully you get paid a little for
or that you don't pay to much for.If you see an H17 8 Decker that cuts off half a deck, I think that is a game that one should be happy to play.
I have on occasion seen such games in my parts.
All things being equal 8D H17 should be avoided.
However, one must look at the big picture, not just the # decks and rules.
Also, one must look at shuffles. A beatable shuffle can easily make up for the difference between H17 and S17, and then some. IF you know how to exploit it.
Harrah's H17 8 deckers offer nothing worthwhile, and should be avoided as a sucker game. Same with many Atlantic City games.
Nevertheless, some good 8D games exist, and some of them even have H17.
I have on occasion seen such games in my parts.
All things being equal 8D H17 should be avoided.
However, one must look at the big picture, not just the # decks and rules.
Also, one must look at shuffles. A beatable shuffle can easily make up for the difference between H17 and S17, and then some. IF you know how to exploit it.
Harrah's H17 8 deckers offer nothing worthwhile, and should be avoided as a sucker game. Same with many Atlantic City games.
Nevertheless, some good 8D games exist, and some of them even have H17.