Hunch

sabre

Well-Known Member
The issue isn't being broke at the end of a shoe. It's being broke in the middle of the shoe ... with the TC +6.

Or worse, with a max bet out you split 88 twice v 7 and double on the first 2 hands, then get another 8. You're out of money and now are forced to hit your 88v7 instead of splitting 88.

I don't think I'd want to have less than 15 max bets in my pocket in any good shoe game.
 

Hunch

Active Member
Trip #17

Starting Bank: $16,499.50
Free Play: Won $71.25
Playing Time: 4-5 hours.
Blackjack Play: Loss $1,021.00
Trip Bank: $3,000.00
Ending Bank: $15,478.50

Free Play results will not be included in Bank.
 

Hunch

Active Member
Trip #18

Trip Bank: $3,000.00
Playing Time: 3 Hours
Blackjack Play: Loss $985.00
Free Play: N/A
Ending Bank: $14,493.50
 

NAP

Well-Known Member
Sorry to hear about your run of negative variance. I'm on a downswing myself right now so I definitely feel your pain. :(
 

BJgenius007

Well-Known Member
Hunch said:
Game: DD; H17; LS
Min: $15
Spread: $15 - $150 \ Two Hands mostly
Players: 2-7
Casino Time: 4.5 Hours
Wong Out: Mostly played all. Some terrible negative counts.
Pen: 70% - 75% - 80%
Bank: $2,200.00
Results: Loss $82.50

Comments: Should have listened to Zg's advice and Wonged out. No great positive counts to speak of. Should not have played so long either.
From your descriptions, I know the DD is the Counters' Table. Since it is the only DD table in Mystery Casino, you CANNOT Wong out. Take a rest room break is OK, but Wong out is impossible as many people are waiting for a seat.

Also Pink Shirt is the counter catcher for Mystery Casino. If you play more than once a week and won most of the times, eventually he will come downstairs and tell the dealer to half shoe you (50% penetration).

I hope this reply escape from the deletion. Don't know why. But Ken Smith kept deleting my posts on story section. Up to date I have 200+ posts deleted.
 

BJgenius007

Well-Known Member
Hunch said:
Starting Bank: $14,824.00
Game: Will no longer disclose type of game or location for security reasons.
Trip Cash: 1,800.00
Pen: 60-70%
Spread: $10.00 - $125.00
Hands: Two
Wong out: -5
Trip Results: Won $1,045.00
Ytd: $5,869.00
Ending Bank: $15,869.00
Well, we can still see the location by inference. If the spread is 12.5 to 1, it is DD Counters' table. If the spread is 16:1 or 20:1, it is the Meadows.:laugh:
 

tthree

Banned
BJgenius007 said:
From your descriptions, I know the DD is the Counters' Table. Since it is the only DD table in Mystery Casino, you CANNOT Wong out. Take a rest room break is OK, but Wong out is impossible as many people are waiting for a seat.

Also Pink Shirt is the counter catcher for Mystery Casino. If you play more than once a week and won most of the times, eventually he will come downstairs and tell the dealer to half shoe you (50% penetration).

I hope this reply escape from the deletion. Don't know why. But Ken Smith kept deleting my posts on story section. Up to date I have 200+ posts deleted.
Ken deletes your posts because you keep outing people. Hunch stopped posting specifics but you tell the casino he is playing in their store. Everyone on this sight knows where the counters table is. The casino that hosts it recognized your description of their game before anyone here did. He also said he played with 2 to 7 players. Does that sound like there are people waiting to grab the first empty seat?
 

tthree

Banned
BJgenius007 said:
Well, we can still see the location by inference. If the spread is 12.5 to 1, it is DD Counters' table. If the spread is 16:1 or 20:1, it is the Meadows.:laugh:
Ken, can you stop this bigmouth.
 

BJgenius007

Well-Known Member
tthree said:
Ken deletes your posts because you keep outing people. Hunch stopped posting specifics but you tell the casino he is playing in their store. Everyone on this sight knows where the counters table is. The casino that hosts it recognized your description of their game before anyone here did. He also said he played with 2 to 7 players. Does that sound like there are people waiting to grab the first empty seat?
I just can't believe you blame me for outing Hunch or other people. The casino knows there are tons of APs playing at their casino. I bet they don't which one is Hunch, just like they don't know which one is me or any particular person.

My long stand for Counters' Table is that the casino knows exactly what they are doing. As long as they just keep DD in one table and set table maximum at $500, they are OK with the small loss. And by putting all APs in one table, the surveillance can concentrate on one table and build a great video/image database. Also when the top notch AP is in the house, I have seen the boss come downstairs and tell the dealer cut the penetration to 55%. For that, I think Hunch is still not under their radar yet.

I can't believe you are one of the paranoia.
 

tthree

Banned
BJgenius007 said:
I just can't believe you blame me for outing Hunch or other people. The casino knows there are tons of APs playing at their casino. I bet they don't which one is Hunch, just like they don't know which one is me or any particular person.

My long stand for Counters' Table is that the casino knows exactly what they are doing. As long as they just keep DD in one table and set table maximum at $500, they are OK with the small loss. And by putting all APs in one table, the surveillance can concentrate on one table and build a great video/image database. Also when the top notch AP is in the house, I have seen the boss come downstairs and tell the dealer cut the penetration to 55%. For that, I think Hunch is still not under their radar yet.

I can't believe you are one of the paranoia.
They are probably selling the data they compile to other casinos. Hunch chose not to give to specific of information. You chose to decide he should have you giving the information he thought was giving him heat. That is THE cardinal sin on this website. If he doesn't want the information posted don't post it. People don't think your a genius if you can't even figure that out.
 

Hunch

Active Member
Second thoughts

I am having second thoughts about the wisdom of posting my results. For various reasons, I have decided to discontinue the posting of my results.

Mods: Please delete all my posts, with the exception of this final post.

Hunch
 
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Hunch said:
I am having second thoughts about the wisdom of posting my results. For various reasons, I have decided to discontinue the posting of my results.

Mods: Please delete all my posts, with the exception of this final post.

Hunch
No one needs to post results!:rolleyes: It is no one's bizzness, no one cares unless they have a nose problem, and alot of people here seem too, and in my estimation it shows a great lack of experience on the part of the poster. More of you guys should be out playing instead of into each others private bizzness. Who cares what another guys spread is, it is no one's damn bizzness and you are a fool for talking about it!

If you win, shut up about it, if you lose don't whine about it, your goal is to get game by playing,,,not talking about it in every detail imaginable.

CP
 

jaygruden

Well-Known Member
I know this is off topic and irrelevant but I'm just sharing this to lighten the mood a little on this thread.......

I don't know if this is just me or if everyone does this but I tend to "hear" a voice for each poster when I read his/her posts. So even though I have not ever met or spoken to anyone on here I have formed what I think your voice sounds like in my head when I read your posts (not initially, but after maybe a dozen or so posts anyway).

I'm sure that voice; whether it be male or female, deep or high pitched, etc has to do with whatever information I have inadvertently gathered over time by reading your posts, seeing what your avatar looks like and feeling the general tone and style of your writing.

I am saying this because I have to tell you C.P. that every time I read your posts I hear your voice as the kidnapper voice over the phone who is using one of those voice disguising electronic devices so the FBI can't put you through the voice recognition software.:grin: No offense intended......I'm sure you're a great guy and not a kidnapper at all, but I get a chuckle out of it because I can't get that voice out of my head whenever I read your posts:laugh: Part of it may have to do with the scary black panther I see everyday:whip: Then again maybe I'm just crazy and been on the computer too long.....I mean I must be crazy if I'm hearing voices right Flash?:joker:
 
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BJgenius007

Well-Known Member
Hunch said:
I am having second thoughts about the wisdom of posting my results. For various reasons, I have decided to discontinue the posting of my results.

Mods: Please delete all my posts, with the exception of this final post.

Hunch
It is probably too late for you. The place you played 2D is OK because they depends on humans to catch AP. But the Meadows is the new casino. They have installed the most advanced streamline surveillance system and technology. All their chips have RFID built-in, even the $5 red ones. Didn't you see the dealer push a button before dealing each hand? The casino is taking a snap shot on each of your bets. When you go to the cage, they put all chips on a mouse pad and it automatically displays your total winnings. That information is linked to your image from camera everywhere and your bet pattern. Based on the dates and the results you posted here, it is very easy to identify you.:eek:
 

Machinist

Well-Known Member
jaygruden said:
I know this is off topic and irrelevant but I'm just sharing this to lighten the mood a little on this thread.......

I don't know if this is just me or if everyone does this but I tend to "hear" a voice for each poster when I read his/her posts. So even though I have not ever met or spoken to anyone on here I have formed what I think your voice sounds like in my head when I read your posts (not initially, but after maybe a dozen or so posts anyway).

I'm sure that voice; whether it be male or female, deep or high pitched, etc has to do with whatever information I have inadvertently gathered over time by reading your posts, seeing what your avatar looks like and feeling the general tone and style of your writing.

I am saying this because I have to tell you C.P. that every time I read your posts I hear your voice as the kidnapper voice over the phone who is using one of those voice disguising electronic devices so the FBI can't put you through the voice recognition software.:grin: No offense intended......I'm sure you're a great guy and not a kidnapper at all, but I get a chuckle out of it because I can't get that voice out of my head whenever I read your posts:laugh: Part of it may have to do with the scary black panther I see everyday:whip: Then again maybe I'm just crazy and been on the computer too long.....I mean I must be crazy if I'm hearing voices right Flash?:joker:
Now that's funny!!.!! CP the kidnapper!! Lmao

Machinist
 
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