LVHCM Challenge

[person1125]

LVHCM vs Craps Master

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interesting read on our friend or is it friends?

 

[ChefJJ]

There are quite a few ways to beat craps. More than one of which are legal. Imagine that, huh?

I'm listening...in another thread/forum perhaps?

 

[Mimosine]

this thread has officially taken a turn for the worse, or at least should be detoured into the voodoo lounge.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

If card flow and hot tables are the best you can do when trying to come up with a creative solution to the AC 6:5 problem, then I don't think you're intelligent enough to understand how to get an edge at those same games without counting. Seriously... just stick to the junior varsity BS and 6:5 whining, because that's probably the best you're ever going to do.

Try harder, and I might give you some professional-level feedback.

Yeah OK, I'm going to try really hard to get some professional BJ advice from a professional craps master. Golly gee whiz, just what I need.

Hey how are you at keno?

 

[QFIT]

If card flow and hot tables are the best you can do when trying to come up with a creative solution to the AC 6:5 problem, then I don't think you're intelligent enough to understand how to get an edge at those same games without counting. Seriously... just stick to the junior varsity BS and 6:5 whining, because that's probably the best you're ever going to do.

Try harder, and I might give you some professional-level feedback.

Looking for an AP opportunity?

What is the bet on whether 'Craps Master' is part of 'LVHCM?'

 

[Craps Master]

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If you can't tell my posting style from his, then you lack the observational and deductive skills to ever make a dime from advantage play.

 

[ChefJJ]

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Las Vegas Hole Card Mafia?!? Creative.

 

[person1125]

If you can't tell my posting style from his, then you lack the observational and deductive skills to ever make a dime from advantage play.

Yeah you use nice educational words where as LVHCM / LVHCM1 uses 3rd grade name calling to make his point.

 

[Craps Master]

Yeah OK, I'm going to try really hard to get some professional BJ advice from a professional craps master. Golly gee whiz, just what I need.

Hey how are you at keno?

Yeah, if I'm good enough to beat a very challenging game at which to garner an edge like craps, just imagine how great I must be at blackjack. You really should try hard to get some professional level advice from me. Just stop and think of it in terms of EV analysis. The best case scenario is that you get some information from me that's worth something; the worst case scenario is that I just continue to make you look bad. Now, if you are sufficiently mature and not so wrapped up in your online ego that the latter is of no consequence to you, and if you can tell if I'm trying to BS you, so any disinformation I give doesn't cost you anything, then surely it would be to your advantage, in terms of pure EV, for you to try to engage me on my incredibly high intellectual level. I realize this may be a climb for you, but nobody ever said gambling at a professional level was easy.

So, you can either be logical about all this, or you can continue to act like a junior high school student, what with all your appeals to fallacious thinking.

As for Keno, I've never taken a negative edge at that game. That's all I can tell you about that.

 

[Craps Master]

Yeah you use nice educational words where as LVHCM / LVHCM1 uses 3rd grade name calling to make his point.

So then you agree that he does, in fact, make his point. It's good to see someone's listening. Sometimes, the signal gets lost amidst the noise of the ignorant, postwhoring "wise guys" that dominate sites like this.

 

[Craps Master]

this thread has officially taken a turn for the worse, or at least should be detoured into the voodoo lounge.

Thanks for your very insightful input into this thread. I'm sure we're all quite glad to know that you think this thread has taken a turn for the worse, whoever you are. It's nice to have e-secretaries like yourself here to tell us where threads should go instead of actually trying to contribute some content.

 

[sagefr0g]

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good catch person1125 ! :1st:

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Yeah, if I'm good enough to beat a very challenging game at which to garner an edge like craps, just imagine how great I must be at blackjack. You really should try hard to get some professional level advice from me. Just stop and think of it in terms of EV analysis. The best case scenario is that you get some information from me that's worth something; the worst case scenario is that I just continue to make you look bad. Now, if you are sufficiently mature and not so wrapped up in your online ego that the latter is of no consequence to you, and if you can tell if I'm trying to BS you, so any disinformation I give doesn't cost you anything, then surely it would be to your advantage, in terms of pure EV, for you to try to engage me on my incredibly high intellectual level. I realize this may be a climb for you, but nobody ever said gambling at a professional level was easy.

So, you can either be logical about all this, or you can continue to act like a junior high school student, what with all your appeals to fallacious thinking.

As for Keno, I've never taken a negative edge at that game. That's all I can tell you about that.

I'd rather look at it in terms of win rate. It's very possible that you have something with positive EV to offer, but given your history it happens so infrequently (I have never seen it happen) that it's not a constructive use of my time to pursue it. Sort of like counting Red Dog.

 

[Craps Master]

I'd rather look at it in terms of win rate. It's very possible that you have something with positive EV to offer, but given your history it happens so infrequently (I have never seen it happen) that it's not a constructive use of my time to pursue it. Sort of like counting Red Dog.

Well, this is quite hypocritical. You keep engaging me and getting nothing, thus your winrate keeps diminishing. The door is open for you to learn a thing or two, but in your egotistical insecurity, you can't even ask the right questions and, instead, resort to fatuousness and lashing out. Would it really be so unbearable to be shown to be as ignorant as you are? Do you have so much invested in your reputation as some sort of knowledgeable person at this site that you would forgo the chance to learn to beat 6:5 in AC (at a larger edge than you could ever get with counting cards)? That's pretty weak, and probably indicative of inadequacies you derive from not actually being able to do very well as an advantage player out in the real world.

 

[Mimosine]

Thanks for your very insightful input into this thread. I'm sure we're all quite glad to know that you think this thread has taken a turn for the worse, whoever you are. It's nice to have e-secretaries like yourself here to tell us where threads should go instead of actually trying to contribute some content.

i challenge you, point blank, to actually add something to the conversation.

describe 1 of your 11 or 12 fabled techniques to beat a 6:5 game and let the people on BJI analyze, test it, etc. (hole carding doesn't count as there already exists BS strategy charts for it, etc.)

if you're not willing or capable of doing this, then you motives here have become clear.

 

[Craps Master]

good catch person1125 ! :1st:

Even better would be to go to that site and read my analysis on 6:5. It is very illuminating for brainwashed card counters who want to go around railing against it.

 

[supercoolmancool]

To beat machine shuffled 6:5 blackjack without card counting or cheating. I can only think of semi-cheating plays or card steering if you could see the last card when offered the cut. Or maybe if you bought a machine you could figure it out.

 

[Craps Master]

describe 1 of your 11 or 12 fabled techniques to beat a 6:5 game and let the people on BJI analyze, test it, etc. (hole carding doesn't count as there already exists BS strategy charts for it, etc.)

if you're not willing or capable of doing this, then you motives here have become clear.

I refer you to pages 171 - 174 of Steve Forte's voluminous work, Casino Game Protection. Now, that won't work in Atlantic City, but it will work at a lot of places around the country. For techniques specific to AC, I will continue to await Automatic Monkey's admission of ignorance and subsequent groveling. If it doesn't come... no skin off my teeth.

 

[Craps Master]

To beat machine shuffled 6:5 blackjack without card counting or cheating. I can only think of semi-cheating plays or card steering if you could see the last card when offered the cut. Or maybe if you bought a machine you could figure it out.

Very creative. Maybe you're onto something. Whatever the case, you're far more advanced than Automatic Monkey, if he's still stuck in the dark ages of thinking alternatives to counting must be things on the order of hot tables or card flow.

 

[supercoolmancool]

I refer you to pages 171 - 174 of Steve Forte's voluminous work, Casino Game Protection. Now, that won't work in Atlantic City, but it will work at a lot of places around the country. For techniques specific to AC, I will continue to await Automatic Monkey's admission of ignorance and subsequent groveling. If it doesn't come... no skin off my teeth.

Ignore Automatic Monkey. He is one of thousands! I admit my ignorance and am groveling!