LVHCM Challenge

[ChefJJ]

Well, this is quite hypocritical. You keep engaging me and getting nothing, thus your winrate keeps diminishing. The door is open for you to learn a thing or two, but in your egotistical insecurity, you can't even ask the right questions and, instead, resort to fatuousness and lashing out. Would it really be so unbearable to be shown to be as ignorant as you are? Do you have so much invested in your reputation as some sort of knowledgeable person at this site that you would forgo the chance to learn to beat 6:5 in AC (at a larger edge than you could ever get with counting cards)? That's pretty weak, and probably indicative of inadequacies you derive from not actually being able to do very well as an advantage player out in the real world.

I'd settle for the craps info...no bullshnittin' either. In another forum, of course.

As far as the 6:5 BJ stuff, you've got the rest of the dudes here waiting.

 

[sagefr0g]

Even better would be to go to that site and read my analysis on 6:5. It is very illuminating for brainwashed card counters who want to go around railing against it.

please provide the link.

 

[supercoolmancool]

When you say that you know how to beat 6:5 without card counting, do you mean counting the cards is completely not involved in the technique? And when you say no cheating, do you mean the play is totally 100% legal? I ask because some cheating moves that are illegal, but you could never get caught, so you might not consider them illegal. I know that 6:5 might be a confusing payout. do one of your techniques involve confusing the dealer?

 

[Craps Master]

When you say that you know how to beat 6:5 without card counting, do you mean counting the cards is completely not involved in the technique? And when you say no cheating, do you mean the play is totally 100% legal? Like you don't purposely try to confuse the dealer?

Right on all counts.

 

[Craps Master]

please provide the link.

I wrote that stuff years ago. I don't really feel like sifting through that site and finding all of my nuggets of pure genius that I left for the ignorant masses there. You can search it out yourself, if you really want to learn something interesting. If not, suit yourself.

 

[sagefr0g]

I wrote that stuff years ago. I don't really feel like sifting through that site and finding all of my nuggets of pure genius that I left for the ignorant masses there. You can search it out yourself, if you really want to learn something interesting. If not, suit yourself.

fair enough i'll try and find it.

 

[person1125]

I wrote that stuff years ago. I don't really feel like sifting through that site and finding all of my nuggets of pure genius that I left for the ignorant masses there. You can search it out yourself, if you really want to learn something interesting. If not, suit yourself.

here let me help you. here's a link to find all posts Craps Master did at LVF just search Craps Master under author and look only in the Vegas Free-for-All forum catergory.

(Dead link: http://forums.lasvegasadvisor.com/search.cfm)

 

[sagefr0g]

Even better would be to go to that site and read my analysis on 6:5. It is very illuminating for brainwashed card counters who want to go around railing against it.

ok i read your posts.
you don't like card counters because they mess you up making money.
in your analysis 6:5 is no worse than 8 deck blackjack offered in Las Vegas.
that's it in a nutshell.
so far i've found nothing that you have posted that indicates how you beat the 6:5 game except your mention that a large spread can beat it.
i'm guessing you hole card the 6:5 game. but fail to understand why you rail against card counters.
question sir. in what way do card counters mess you up?

 

[Craps Master]

so far i've found nothing that you have posted that indicates how you beat the 6:5 game except your mention that a large spread can beat it.

I just posted a reference to Steve Forte's book in this very thread that can be useful for beating 6:5 blackjack. In those threads at that other site, I was just pointing out how weak the card counters' arguments for getting rid of 6:5 were. They're being disingenuous when they say they're fighting against the casinos swindling the squares, and they're just whining when they say the games interfere with their own ability to make money. I sure as hell make more money off of 6:5 blackjack than I do off of the 8-deck shoes those games replaced. Other people can too. It just takes a little ingenuity and intelligence. The most successful professionals don't just read Professional Blackjack and Blackjack Attack and then go put those techniques into action, move by move. They have a broad range of skills the develop, sometimes in reaction to moves by the casinos. The key is just having diverse skills and staying a step ahead of the casinos. If you can't do that and your only recourse is to whine about "injustices" such as 6:5 blackjack, then you're nothing short of pathetic.

 

[sagefr0g]

I just posted a reference to Steve Forte's book in this very thread that can be useful for beating 6:5 blackjack. In those threads at that other site, I was just pointing out how weak the card counters' arguments for getting rid of 6:5 were. They're being disingenuous when they say they're fighting against the casinos swindling the squares, and they're just whining when they say the games interfere with their own ability to make money. I sure as hell make more money off of 6:5 blackjack than I do off of the 8-deck shoes those games replaced. Other people can too. It just takes a little ingenuity and intelligence. The most successful professionals don't just read Professional Blackjack and Blackjack Attack and then go put those techniques into action, move by move. They have a broad range of skills the develop, sometimes in reaction to moves by the casinos. The key is just having diverse skills and staying a step ahead of the casinos. If you can't do that and your only recourse is to whine about "injustices" such as 6:5 blackjack, then you're nothing short of pathetic.

well certainly you realize that 6:5 blackjack is a poor choice of a game for card counters. just as a shoe game would be a poor choice for a hole carder.
so it may be that counter only types would be at odds with hole card reader types on this issue and vice-a-versa.
i can appreciate your point of having diverse skills to stay a step ahead of the casinos. i for one can only take your word and that of others that such skills exist and are infact possible. the thing is and wisely so i should imagine is that such skills are apparently so closely guarded that those of us who have at least managed to reach the card counter level and want to diversify are unable to break through the veil of secrecy and learn other skills.

 

[lvhcm]

LVHCM -

If I click on you and look at 'all posts by user' I would have to agree with others in that you haven't posted anything of value. All you have done is swear and make fun of the other posters. If I google LVHCM I see that you (assuming the same user) post on many other message boards that deal with blackjack. On the other message boards I read a lot of the same - you ripping on people, calling them fakes, names, etc. But I also learned that you are supposed to be a very skilled hole carder and that interests me. So my challenge to you is this : answer some questions I have for you and DON'T be a jerk. Don't reply with "I don't have to prove myself here - anyone who knows me knows my skill". I've read that crap from you and don't need to see it again. I will be more surprised if you answer and give useful info than if you don't. So here goes.

Questions:
1) Do you count cards or only hole-card? How long have you been doing this for?
2) Where did you learn your skill? From a book or were you taught by someone?
3) Would I be better off learning hole-carding and forget about counting?
4) Why do you say 6/5 BJ is better than 3/2? I don't see how it could be.
5) Where would you recommend I start in order to learn the skill that you have?

That's all the questions I have for know. If you answer these it may raise more in my mind and I'll ask those later.

Step up to the plate and take my simple challenge.

Asshat,

I'll dispense information when I damn well feel like it. You may well have already gleaned many things from my posts if not for your closed minded ignorance.

That said, I'm willing to help you out if you would answer a few questions for me:

1. At what age did you realize you were a homosexual?

2. How did your parents deal with your homosexuality?

3.Top or bottom?

4. Spit or swallow?

5. Fisting - Yea or nay?

 

[lvhcm]

well certainly you realize that 6:5 blackjack is a poor choice of a game for card counters. just as a shoe game would be a poor choice for a hole carder.
so it may be that counter only types would be at odds with hole card reader types on this issue and vice-a-versa.
i can appreciate your point of having diverse skills to stay a step ahead of the casinos. i for one can only take your word and that of others that such skills exist and are infact possible. the thing is and wisely so i should imagine is that such skills are apparently so closely guarded that those of us who have at least managed to reach the card counter level and want to diversify are unable to break through the veil of secrecy and learn other skills.

What is this constant "at odds with cardcounters" nonsense? Cardcounters are no match for us with their primitive skills. We merely are pointing out the only ones crying about 6/5 being the "death of blackjack" are cardcounters. The fact is, that statement can't get any further than the truth.

 

[lvhcm]

Looking for an AP opportunity?

What is the bet on whether 'Craps Master' is part of 'LVHCM?'

This from a guy who one longtime pro recently described to me as "autistic".

 

[Craps Master]

What is this constant "at odds with cardcounters" nonsense? Cardcounters are no match for us with their primitive skills. We merely are pointing out the only ones crying about 6/5 being the "death of blackjack" are cardcounters.

And generally only the shitty card counters at that. The skilled ones don't give a rat's ass.

 

[KenSmith]

Well, I guess that's that. Challenge declined.