Professional Roulette Prediction

[PierceNation]

A few months ago I was in a local joint, and becoming frustrated with getting stiff after stiff in **** decks, left the blackjack table to get a drink. On the way back I stopped to watch the roulette table for a bit, and noticed that the ball was consistently landing in the same quarter of the wheel. I spread some chips over that quarter, won 4 times in a row and walked out 100 quid richer.

Coincidence or 1/100 run of numbers? maybe.

I reckon it hadnt been serviced for a while though, and had started to tilt, I went back the next day and they had replaced the table. Pretty much sold the idea of bias wheels to me though. When Im out and about I always have a quick look at the wheel for unusual results...

Pierce.

 

[zengrifter]

I went ahead and ordered it. Will give a book report if there's anything good.

Time for that book review, please. zg

 

[aslan]

A few months ago I was in a local joint, and becoming frustrated with getting stiff after stiff in **** decks, left the blackjack table to get a drink. On the way back I stopped to watch the roulette table for a bit, and noticed that the ball was consistently landing in the same quarter of the wheel. I spread some chips over that quarter, won 4 times in a row and walked out 100 quid richer.

Coincidence or 1/100 run of numbers? maybe.

I reckon it hadnt been serviced for a while though, and had started to tilt, I went back the next day and they had replaced the table. Pretty much sold the idea of bias wheels to me though. When Im out and about I always have a quick look at the wheel for unusual results...

Pierce.

Had I found that wheel, you could not have pried me away from it for the rest of the day. In fact, had it actually had a strong bias, I would be one rich man in that short period of time, if they didn't swap it out on me.

 

[Sucker]

On the way back I stopped to watch the roulette table for a bit, and noticed that the ball was consistently landing in the same quarter of the wheel. I spread some chips over that quarter, won 4 times in a row and walked out 100 quid richer.

Pierce.

This is a perfect example of the old saying "A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing".

When you find a tilted wheel; you've now solved less than 1% of the problem. As a matter of fact, ALL wheels are tilted at least somewhat, and finding one that can be exploited is not difficult at all.

A tilted wheel IS playable, but not in the way you've described. The ball won't fall into the same quadrant of the WHEEL, but it'll DROP into the wheel at the same SPOT every time. The trick NOW is to be able to time the spinning wheel and to be able to determine WHICH quadrant of the wheel is going to be under the spot where the ball falls, at the moment the ball falls. (This takes TREMENDOUS skill). THEN - after many weeks or months of the practice required in order to be proficient enough to actually PLAY the game, you have to play a "cat-&-mouse" game which is strikingly similar to the game you would have to play if spreading 1-100 on single deck blackjack.

The tell-tale sign of this sort of play is the fact that you are required to make your bets LATE in the spin after the ball starts to slow down. Almost every pit boss in the world knows this move, and is watching for it.

As far as swapping out the wheel - that's too much work, and not necessarily all that effective anyway. The casinos' first line of defense is merely to replace the ball with one of a slightly different weight, which of course destroys the timing.

No one SAID it would be EASY.

 

[zengrifter]

This is a perfect example of the old saying "A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing".

Tilted wheels are common and even a 1% tilt will cause the ball to drop from the same place far more often than not. But unless the dealer is launching the ball from the same rotor orientation and with identical force it will still be random. zg

 

[QFIT]

Tilted wheels are common and even a 1% tilt will cause the ball to drop from the same place far more often than not. But unless the dealer is launching the ball from the same rotor orientation and with identical force it will still be random. zg

Far less tilt is required. But, biased wheels aren't very common these days in the West, and wheels are rotated between tables nightly. Laurence Scott's techniques don't require bias. They do require that you measure force. Most dealers are like robots. The force doesn't vary much from throw to throw.

 

[Jack_Black]

Time for that book review, please. zg

I believe I did. Please refer to post #33. My conclusion was that it might be possible to get an edge, or it might not.:laugh:

 

[creeping panther]

Jack

I believe I did. Please refer to post #33. My conclusion was that it might be possible to get an edge, or it might not.:laugh:

I think a single 0 can be beat,,,should be alot of them to try at the next BASH

CP

 

[Jack_Black]

I think a single 0 can be beat,,,should be alot of them to try at the next BASH

CP

being a 0 or 00 wheel is irrelevant when looking for a wheel to gain an edge with. but no doubt, I will be checking the wheels for potential during the bash!

 

[zoomie]

I think a single 0 can be beat,,,should be alot of them to try at the next BASH

CP

Hmmmmmm. Don't believe I've seen a single zero in the US . . .

 

[creeping panther]

Jb

being a 0 or 00 wheel is irrelevant when looking for a wheel to gain an edge with. but no doubt, I will be checking the wheels for potential during the bash!

You can also gain an edge from the dealer, besides a wheel.

CP

 

[aslan]

Hmmmmmm. Don't believe I've seen a single zero in the US . . .

Look again.

 

[zengrifter]

A few comments:

1. Advantage can be huge, which reduces the effect of variance.
2. Because of the high advantage, whether the table is American or Euro rules has little impact. Hard to imagine, but when you look at the effect of removing a few spots from consideration (as pointed out in this thread) it becomes easier to see.
3. Scott's strategy is based partly on sound. There is a substantial change in pitch as the ball is about to lose contact with the rim. Training yourself in the sounds gives you more time to make bets.
4. There is a reason casinos take precautions, like regularly moving rotors from table to table. They know the game has weaknesses.
5. The only criticism I have of Scott's material is that he probably understates the effort required. But then, he has been at this a long, long time -- and I'm sure it's trivial for him at this point.

Does it require using a stopwatch at the table? zg

 

[QFIT]

Hmmmmmm. Don't believe I've seen a single zero in the US . . .

There are several in various high limit rooms. Also a small number on main floors.

 

[Sucker]

A couple of years back, I was in a casino that had BOTH tables, side by side. One of them had a sign above it that said "Single 0 Roulette"; the other one was labeled "American Roulette". The American roulette table was PACKED with players, and the Single 0 was completely DEAD. Just goes to demonstrate the stupidity of gamblers in general.

 

[zoomie]

There are several in various high limit rooms. Also a small number on main floors.

No, I can't prove a negative, certainly not in such a well informed crowd. :cool2: But, I stand by my point. If CP says we will see a lot of single zeros, it won't be here in the US, right? Of course, when I walk past a roulette table I really pay no attention to anything but the cute butts on the pretty young girls who play the game because they understand it . . . so maybe I'm wrong: There are tons of single zero tables here

 

[Sucker]

Actually, there aren't TONS of them, but there are a FEW. And your statement was NOT wrong: You didn't say that there WERE none, you merely said that you haven't SEEN one.:grin: :grin:

 

[zengrifter]

A couple of years back, I was in a casino that had BOTH tables, side by side. One of them had a sign above it that said "Single 0 Roulette"; the other one was labeled "American Roulette". The American roulette table was PACKED with players, and the Single 0 was completely DEAD. Just goes to demonstrate the stupidity of gamblers in general.

I've seen that repeated at Resorts, Strat, and Aladdin. zg

 

[aslan]

I've seen that repeated at Resorts, Strat, and Aladdin. zg

A couple of years back, I was in a casino that had BOTH tables, side by side. One of them had a sign above it that said "Single 0 Roulette"; the other one was labeled "American Roulette". The American roulette table was PACKED with players, and the Single 0 was completely DEAD. Just goes to demonstrate the stupidity of gamblers in general.

Apparently, it would be un-American to do otherwise. So much for American exceptionalism.