Psychics and blackjack
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Katweezel
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You gotta bust that damn dealer
I had no idea the US had box-limits like you say. (Which explains why I never saw MHBJ mentioned in a book.) I guess it's simply a matter of money speaks, as I recall Kerry Packer in the late 1990s playing as many as 8 tables at once, arranged in a large circle - each with its own dealer - and ten grand max on each box... at MGM I think it was. Somebody had given big Kerry the idea that Multi-Hand-Blackjack played like that was a good idea. He played like this also in London and Australia. As a billionaire whale, Kerry was usually able to get whatever he demanded.
Now, I definitely ain't a whale... just yet.
But I do like to play some MHBJ. So if I am playing say 6 boxes this round, and I have some largish bets out on say 3 of those boxes and minimums the others, then I call third base my power box. Whatever I call is going to directly affect my other 5 boxes. And it is ME making the call, not Jake the drunk Bozo. Now what if the dealer can be engineered to bust off her face-up? Can this be done with any degree of confidence? No, say all the Math Boys and yes, say the Voos. Here in VD I am allowed to say this: there is more to Blackjack than just Math.
This is voodoo here... Voos remember that the dealer hand has a very high expected bust rate of 28.20%. Is there any way of exploiting such a high average figure? No say them. Yup say the Voos.
So how can a dealer bust be engineered with MHBJ? Easy. You just don't take the dealer bust card.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to get involved down in the Dark Cellar, ExCAA.
I wasn't pulling your leg ExC. Down Under, you can play as many boxes as you like, (on the main floor, depending on how busy it is.) In the HL rooms, you can get your own reserved table anytime, (within certain limits.)ExhibitCAA said:
I had no idea the US had box-limits like you say. (Which explains why I never saw MHBJ mentioned in a book.) I guess it's simply a matter of money speaks, as I recall Kerry Packer in the late 1990s playing as many as 8 tables at once, arranged in a large circle - each with its own dealer - and ten grand max on each box... at MGM I think it was. Somebody had given big Kerry the idea that Multi-Hand-Blackjack played like that was a good idea. He played like this also in London and Australia. As a billionaire whale, Kerry was usually able to get whatever he demanded.
Now, I definitely ain't a whale... just yet.
But I do like to play some MHBJ. So if I am playing say 6 boxes this round, and I have some largish bets out on say 3 of those boxes and minimums the others, then I call third base my power box. Whatever I call is going to directly affect my other 5 boxes. And it is ME making the call, not Jake the drunk Bozo. Now what if the dealer can be engineered to bust off her face-up? Can this be done with any degree of confidence? No, say all the Math Boys and yes, say the Voos. Here in VD I am allowed to say this: there is more to Blackjack than just Math. This is voodoo here... Voos remember that the dealer hand has a very high expected bust rate of 28.20%. Is there any way of exploiting such a high average figure? No say them. Yup say the Voos.
So how can a dealer bust be engineered with MHBJ? Easy. You just don't take the dealer bust card.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to get involved down in the Dark Cellar, ExCAA.
Katweezel
Well-Known Member
Debunk the debunkers
Hi Suburu, I'm disturbed that you have the time on your hands to be answering debunking posts in the Voodoo Betting Forum. So you have a game like that? Like what? Are you suggesting you also, have figured how to not take the dealer bust card?WRX said:
ExhibitCAA
Well-Known Member
"I wasn't pulling your leg ExC. Down Under, you can play as many boxes as you like,"
Yes, I know, I just wanted you to realize that if you expect to come to the US and use your strategy, you will have to make some modifications. Playing all spots is a foreign thing--Britain, Europe, Australia, Central America, cruises, etc. In the US, you would indeed need big $$ to get such conditions. (With big enough $$, you can also get special rules, such as DAS and LS.)
"Here in VD I am allowed to say this: there is more to Blackjack than just Math."
Actually, you are allowed to say that anywhere. But in VD, as it is outside VD, you'd be wrong.
And, yes, we agree that third base can be a "power box," provided third base has next-card info (equivalently, some info regarding the non-random ordering of the remaining cards of the pack). Without any information, third base has no influence over anything. If the top card of the pack and the second card of the pack are randomly mixed, what difference does it make if the third base player can deliver the second card to the dealer, instead of the first?
Yes, I know, I just wanted you to realize that if you expect to come to the US and use your strategy, you will have to make some modifications. Playing all spots is a foreign thing--Britain, Europe, Australia, Central America, cruises, etc. In the US, you would indeed need big $$ to get such conditions. (With big enough $$, you can also get special rules, such as DAS and LS.)
"Here in VD I am allowed to say this: there is more to Blackjack than just Math."
Actually, you are allowed to say that anywhere. But in VD, as it is outside VD, you'd be wrong.
And, yes, we agree that third base can be a "power box," provided third base has next-card info (equivalently, some info regarding the non-random ordering of the remaining cards of the pack). Without any information, third base has no influence over anything. If the top card of the pack and the second card of the pack are randomly mixed, what difference does it make if the third base player can deliver the second card to the dealer, instead of the first?
Katweezel
Well-Known Member
Third base Joe
Let's imagine that Joe played hundreds of thousands of rounds of MHBJ over years, during which time certain inherent recurring 'situations' became apparent and were analyzed and found to be indeed applicable to the win factor. Let's call that a deep understanding of the nature, characteristics and behaviour of MultiHandBlackjack. Let's also imagine that Joe has indeed become very 'skillful' in the deep, dark voodoo skill of 'engineering' dealer busts - especially when large bets are up. And also skillful in foreseeing that this round is a likely winner. Now let's further imagine that all that is true, for Joe.
Of course, all this is hypothetical and a whole radical mindset is required to be operative to come to grips with the concept of MHBJ, let alone dark voodoo 'skills.' However, I believe in the fairies and living happily ever after. I believe that Joe exists. And his voodoo skills. I want Joe calling the shots on Power Third Base. I think Joe loves 28.20%. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The difference IMO is who is making the call. Let's say this is Joe's table and he's playing 6 boxes, no other players MHBJ. Boxes # one, three and five carry large bets, the other boxes carry minimums. If Joe wins two of these big bets and loses one, he make a good profit for this round. If he wins all 3, excellent. If he wins one and loses two, not too bad. If he loses all 3, it's a shocker... The min boxes are min for a purpose, especially the 'sacrificial' third base min, should more cards need to be shown. Ideally, the dealer is going to bust or lose, when big bets are up. Is there any way of predicting the 'correct' or 'likely' time for the round or rounds, for big bets to appear? Hmmm. Could very well be.ExhibitCAA said:
Let's imagine that Joe played hundreds of thousands of rounds of MHBJ over years, during which time certain inherent recurring 'situations' became apparent and were analyzed and found to be indeed applicable to the win factor. Let's call that a deep understanding of the nature, characteristics and behaviour of MultiHandBlackjack. Let's also imagine that Joe has indeed become very 'skillful' in the deep, dark voodoo skill of 'engineering' dealer busts - especially when large bets are up. And also skillful in foreseeing that this round is a likely winner. Now let's further imagine that all that is true, for Joe.
Of course, all this is hypothetical and a whole radical mindset is required to be operative to come to grips with the concept of MHBJ, let alone dark voodoo 'skills.' However, I believe in the fairies and living happily ever after. I believe that Joe exists. And his voodoo skills. I want Joe calling the shots on Power Third Base. I think Joe loves 28.20%. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
blackchipjim
Well-Known Member
knowing
The math points us to a different direction on this one Kat but nontheless it's in the voo of the doo that is fun. I have gone on changing hands from one to two just to get more money on the table but under the guise of controlling the cards. I always try to lock up two spots by playing the out spot from my position and alter the in spot for this very purpose. The math though seriously is the deciding factor which is not really that much.
The math points us to a different direction on this one Kat but nontheless it's in the voo of the doo that is fun. I have gone on changing hands from one to two just to get more money on the table but under the guise of controlling the cards. I always try to lock up two spots by playing the out spot from my position and alter the in spot for this very purpose. The math though seriously is the deciding factor which is not really that much.
doublehappy
New Member
newbie here
I am not a card counter and i wouldn't use the word psychic to describe myself either - ( I recall watching an exceptionally gifted autistic play black jack on TV - using the card counting method, throughout the game - the results were not exciting until he threw away the card counting method and the conventional mentality of odds etc etc and purely used as he called it - his "intuition" - then he surprised everyone with his effective results, including himself - I have never felt particularly drawn to gambling, however while waiting for a friend at a casino hotel - i became bored standing around, so i decided to observe other people playing "Black Jack". To my surprise, i noticed a pattern that somewhat intrigued me, so i began to mentally note what the next card would be, i chuckled to myself because i could see that people were clearly missing the pattern, after some time i jumped on the table and within 45minutes the other players started to look at me reverently - as i was winning 98% of the time if not drawing, the croupier even leaned over and told me she had never seen anything like it in her life. I must say my $300 turning into $40,000 was rather surprising- understand i had no idea what the chips were worth until the end - i just kept doubling up because i didnt want to be bothered with the chip cash out, i just decided to play this fun time out until it was all gone (try as might - i could not lose) - this may seem hard to believe - but truly my preoccupation with keeping an eye out for my friend, and lugging these casino chips around, while concentrating purely on the numeric patterns of the game were in some ways my saving grace - you see i wasn't anxious, at all. $300 is not a lot of money for me because i am on an exceptional annual income in Senior Management and IT. So i kept thinking its only $300 and a lot of fun. These multi coloured chips meant nothing to me. In the end i got bored waiting for my "no show" friend and went home - I also gave the money away to a few causes and spent a bit of it on a holiday. I have never been back to the casino because i think i might get hooked or something - i have always been the sort of person that has been taught quit while you are ahead - yet get give everything a go - i have studied several periphery subjects in quantum physics that draw me back to this game with a curiosity. I have had some time off in the last year that i decided on writing a book about various "fringe" subjects after an incident that captured my heart.
Over my life i have predicted some would say remarkable events -(I could write a book on this subject alone) one such occasion was an earth quake - my friend and i were discussing a part of the country while viewing a map of Auckland, she remarked that the city was volcanic and i said to her that the visible volcanoes do not concern me but the a certain area out to sea did, i explained how it just really bugged me - i said it was just a really weird gut feeling- the very next day the city, after 100 years had an earthquake and as i had lived there all my life and never experienced one in this part my country - now for me - i prefer to remain detached, calm and free of hysteria about such things - my whole family has this nature - my dad was just down right scary about how he could pick things - it is an interesting "gift" as some people call it - i don't see it as a gift however - i am grateful don't get me wrong - but i am a bit like the "animals", for some reason they know when to run for the hills when something is up - the Sumatra Tsunami proved that conclusively - my personal estimation is that we are out of touch with our biological technology inherent within ourselves - i am sure it has something to do with consciousness and quanta or the thing that is unseen to the naked eye - spirit is a reasonable way of describing it yet often associated with some religious dogma or another - and is more about an open - not anxious - mind that is not afraid to observe and experiment.
So here i am looking around the net for some decent simulation software programs to practice this skill of mine on before setting back to the Casino to try my theory - i have developed a black jack technique - that i call "dowsing" and i have not seen or heard anything like it on the net - i suppose because it is an absurd looking method - however it does simplify the process of using "intuition", you take three positions on the table and one major bet box and two minors - the minors are sacrificial for the major - of course i could report that i have had exceptional success on simulations with a real 8 deck that i bought as a practice shoe - but i am more curious how other people would do on it - i am not here selling a book even though i am writing one - (not about blackjack) i am curious about people sentiments on the whole subject and whether my theory that people are only slightly deluded and alienated from that which is obvious to a child - i try to keep my child like nature not for aesthetics but because this is part of the secret.
I am not a card counter and i wouldn't use the word psychic to describe myself either - ( I recall watching an exceptionally gifted autistic play black jack on TV - using the card counting method, throughout the game - the results were not exciting until he threw away the card counting method and the conventional mentality of odds etc etc and purely used as he called it - his "intuition" - then he surprised everyone with his effective results, including himself - I have never felt particularly drawn to gambling, however while waiting for a friend at a casino hotel - i became bored standing around, so i decided to observe other people playing "Black Jack". To my surprise, i noticed a pattern that somewhat intrigued me, so i began to mentally note what the next card would be, i chuckled to myself because i could see that people were clearly missing the pattern, after some time i jumped on the table and within 45minutes the other players started to look at me reverently - as i was winning 98% of the time if not drawing, the croupier even leaned over and told me she had never seen anything like it in her life. I must say my $300 turning into $40,000 was rather surprising- understand i had no idea what the chips were worth until the end - i just kept doubling up because i didnt want to be bothered with the chip cash out, i just decided to play this fun time out until it was all gone (try as might - i could not lose) - this may seem hard to believe - but truly my preoccupation with keeping an eye out for my friend, and lugging these casino chips around, while concentrating purely on the numeric patterns of the game were in some ways my saving grace - you see i wasn't anxious, at all. $300 is not a lot of money for me because i am on an exceptional annual income in Senior Management and IT. So i kept thinking its only $300 and a lot of fun. These multi coloured chips meant nothing to me. In the end i got bored waiting for my "no show" friend and went home - I also gave the money away to a few causes and spent a bit of it on a holiday. I have never been back to the casino because i think i might get hooked or something - i have always been the sort of person that has been taught quit while you are ahead - yet get give everything a go - i have studied several periphery subjects in quantum physics that draw me back to this game with a curiosity. I have had some time off in the last year that i decided on writing a book about various "fringe" subjects after an incident that captured my heart.
Over my life i have predicted some would say remarkable events -(I could write a book on this subject alone) one such occasion was an earth quake - my friend and i were discussing a part of the country while viewing a map of Auckland, she remarked that the city was volcanic and i said to her that the visible volcanoes do not concern me but the a certain area out to sea did, i explained how it just really bugged me - i said it was just a really weird gut feeling- the very next day the city, after 100 years had an earthquake and as i had lived there all my life and never experienced one in this part my country - now for me - i prefer to remain detached, calm and free of hysteria about such things - my whole family has this nature - my dad was just down right scary about how he could pick things - it is an interesting "gift" as some people call it - i don't see it as a gift however - i am grateful don't get me wrong - but i am a bit like the "animals", for some reason they know when to run for the hills when something is up - the Sumatra Tsunami proved that conclusively - my personal estimation is that we are out of touch with our biological technology inherent within ourselves - i am sure it has something to do with consciousness and quanta or the thing that is unseen to the naked eye - spirit is a reasonable way of describing it yet often associated with some religious dogma or another - and is more about an open - not anxious - mind that is not afraid to observe and experiment.
So here i am looking around the net for some decent simulation software programs to practice this skill of mine on before setting back to the Casino to try my theory - i have developed a black jack technique - that i call "dowsing" and i have not seen or heard anything like it on the net - i suppose because it is an absurd looking method - however it does simplify the process of using "intuition", you take three positions on the table and one major bet box and two minors - the minors are sacrificial for the major - of course i could report that i have had exceptional success on simulations with a real 8 deck that i bought as a practice shoe - but i am more curious how other people would do on it - i am not here selling a book even though i am writing one - (not about blackjack) i am curious about people sentiments on the whole subject and whether my theory that people are only slightly deluded and alienated from that which is obvious to a child - i try to keep my child like nature not for aesthetics but because this is part of the secret.
Deathclutch
Well-Known Member
I once invented a time machine, but forgot what time period I left it in.
Edit: And I left my $500,000 there too
Edit: And I left my $500,000 there too
doublehappy
New Member
skeptisizm is fine by me
and i can see your humor (thanks for the chuckle) however ...... this is the thread for BJ psychics yeah? I do not see your logic - Its rather like a straight guy walking into a gay bar and asking where all the women are ...... did you come here to contribute to the thread or just looking for a dust up with "fringe" people ? Perhaps you are really wanting the thread for "frustrated BJ players that need to vent their anger". Either way and either thread ...... i take no offense and wish you well all the same. As a quasi "psychic" just make a mental note of the colour pink for some reason ..... and what that means i have no idea.
and i can see your humor (thanks for the chuckle) however ...... this is the thread for BJ psychics yeah? I do not see your logic - Its rather like a straight guy walking into a gay bar and asking where all the women are ...... did you come here to contribute to the thread or just looking for a dust up with "fringe" people ? Perhaps you are really wanting the thread for "frustrated BJ players that need to vent their anger". Either way and either thread ...... i take no offense and wish you well all the same. As a quasi "psychic" just make a mental note of the colour pink for some reason ..... and what that means i have no idea.
blackchipjim
Well-Known Member
spectrums
The colors of the light spectrum have alot to do with vision either way and effects what you are looking at. Auras of emitted energy from the thought process has been studied for quite some time. People emit energy as to the type of person they are and hues of colors are readable. The way a person uses information is just as important as the information.
The colors of the light spectrum have alot to do with vision either way and effects what you are looking at. Auras of emitted energy from the thought process has been studied for quite some time. People emit energy as to the type of person they are and hues of colors are readable. The way a person uses information is just as important as the information.