Sands, Parx, and Mount Airy

[aslan]

Yes, in AC and other places, if the cut card is the first card out in a round, they do not play that round. I have yet to actually see if Pa handles it the way the rule is stated, but if they do, it is actually deeper penetration than at first glance.

I remember the first time I read through the rules I was stunned at the mention of a "double shoe" in section 549.2 subsection G. To date I have not seen nor heard of any mention of use of such a shoe. I guess it is for future consideration.

However, Parx is using covered shoes with hidden discard trays, which I see no mention of in the rules. As a matter of fact section 549.2 subsection F states that "each blackjack table shall have a discard rack securely attached to the top of the dealer's side of the table. Subsection 2 goes on to say "the discard rack must have a distinct and clearly visable mark on it's side to show the exact height for a stack of cards equal to the total in use". These hidden discard racks at Parx seem to clearly violate these rules.

By double tray, do they mean alternating decks each round, hence requiring a running count on BOTH sets of cards? Hmmm. I think KO can handle that, provided we can find a way to "park" the RC for the idle set of cards. A little "finger magic" under the table seems in order.

 

[V Lazlo]

By double tray, do they mean alternating decks each round, hence requiring a running count on BOTH sets of cards? Hmmm. I think KO can handle that, provided we can find a way to "park" the RC for the idle set of cards. A little "finger magic" under the table seems in order.

I might be wrong, but I think they are referring to ASM which have compartments for 2 sets of however many decks are being dealt out at that specific table.

 

[bj21abc]

Having re-read my post grin

This sounds like it should be fairly easy to fool by using cheap camo at min bets (doubling 12 vs 2, standing on 16 v 10, even money on blackjacks etc) - your player skill level should plummet....unless it's weighted.

Quoting from the Shufflemaster (TM) site - my bolds.

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"

 

[aslan]

I might be wrong, but I think they are referring to ASM which have compartments for 2 sets of however many decks are being dealt out at that specific table.

Good guess, but if you're right, they are improperly calling a shuffling device a shoe. Even when an ASM is utilized, so also is a separate shoe used. Card are dealt from a shoe, but no cards are dealt from an ASM. Now if you think they are referring to a CSM, a shuffling device that you can also deal from, there is still the question of what constitutes a double shoe.

Here's the regulation:

If a double shoe is utilized [pretend they mean ASM], Blackjack shall be played with at least two decks of cards that shall be dealt from separate sides of the dealing shoe [they sure do muck it up when they now refer to it as the DEALING SHOE, as if cards will be dealt from this shoe] with the same number of decks used in each side of the double shoe.

But I agree, they may very well mean ASM; they just have trouble speaking in plain English, a common lawyer trait.