Speaking of bad variance

win21

Banned
Variance is not bad or good. if it is variation it goes up and down. You lose a number of hands in a row that seems scary. you also win a number of hands in a row that make the pitboss mad.

I hear a lot more about players losing too many hands in a row. I am with those who suspect casino cheating. Quick hands. perhaps bj is not a -1% game but 50% like loto?
 

win21

Banned
win21 said:
Variance is not bad or good. if it is variation it goes up and down. You lose a number of hands in a row that seems scary. you also win a number of hands in a row that make the pitboss mad.

I hear a lot more about players losing too many hands in a row. I am with those who suspect casino cheating. Quick hands. perhaps bj is not a -1% game but -50% like loto?
Stats books calculate standard deviation 5 for bj for 100 continous hands. It should go up and down like this. win 4 consecutive hands once in 100 handas. Lose 5 consecutive hands once in 100 hands.

Play 20 000 hands and lose 13 consecutives once.
Play 20 000 hands and win 11 consecutives once.

I think casinos cheat.
 

UK-21

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win21 said:
Stats books calculate standard deviation 5 for bj for 100 continous hands. It should go up and down like this. win 4 consecutive hands once in 100 handas. Lose 5 consecutive hands once in 100 hands.

Play 20 000 hands and lose 13 consecutives once.
Play 20 000 hands and win 11 consecutives once.

I think casinos cheat.
I once played against a CSM (Euro 5.00) flat betting, and lost 13 out of 14 hands. This has happened to me on two occasions since I started to play BJ, and my total hours at the felt on the occasion it happened for the second time was just nine and a half. Can you work out the odds of that happening?
 

tfg

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Variance is a mother f'er. I'm actually scared to go back to the casino after last night. Got stiffs for an entire shoe, every time the count rose, it got worse. Move to another table first 2 hands were 14 for me -bust, then a 4 card 21 for the dealer. Just one of those nights where you can't get anything going. Losing doubles, etc. I hit my loss point and then went to play more craps where I gave back all of my winnings from earlier. Bad night.
 

win21

Banned
newb99 said:
I once played against a CSM (Euro 5.00) flat betting, and lost 13 out of 14 hands. This has happened to me on two occasions since I started to play BJ, and my total hours at the felt on the occasion it happened for the second time was just nine and a half. Can you work out the odds of that happening?
Ask the chines gov. they make the CSm and flood the world with it. PRC wants macao to replace vegas. a journalist who investigated the CSM and other stuff disaaperead beginning chinese new year. i am also far away plus other guys. visa to australia denied. malayia and others in far east are getting angry with smart gamblers and prc dissidents.

your 13 out of 14 hands can be achieved by PRC devices (very cheap). there are no odds for that. there is no maths for that. who cares about maths? casinos dont care. governments dont care about maths. they care about your money which is misplaced in your pocket.

i wrote a book in a notbook now. the odds for situations like yours are in the chapter _Playing blackjack in hospice_. iknow you are joker about your 13 losing hands. or you are a casino op who was trained in prc.

calculating odds is very easy but not in the madhouse. they throw wrotten fish at your books.
 

Katweezel

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Dead fish stink up the casino

win21 said:
Ask the chines gov. they make the CSm and flood the world with it. PRC wants macao to replace vegas. a journalist who investigated the CSM and other stuff disaaperead beginning chinese new year. i am also far away plus other guys. visa to australia denied. malayia and others in far east are getting angry with smart gamblers and prc dissidents.

your 13 out of 14 hands can be achieved by PRC devices (very cheap). there are no odds for that. there is no maths for that. who cares about maths? casinos dont care. governments dont care about maths. they care about your money which is misplaced in your pocket.

i wrote a book in a notbook now. the odds for situations like yours are in the chapter _Playing blackjack in hospice_. iknow you are joker about your 13 losing hands. or you are a casino op who was trained in prc.

calculating odds is very easy but not in the madhouse. they throw wrotten fish at your books.
lol :laugh: Did you mean you did not write a book in your notebook, or
you wrote a book in your not notebook? I hope your not book doesn't stink of wrotten fish. :grin:
 

UK-21

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win21 said:
. . . iknow you are joker about your 13 losing hands. or you are a casino op who was trained in prc.
Afraid not. It happened. And not on a cheap PRC device (Peoples Republic of China) whatever that may be, but on a standard Shufflemaster 1-2-6 CSM - the same ones that will be in Macau.

So are you saying that losing 13 out of 14 hands is impossible ?
 

win21

Banned
Katweezel said:
lol :laugh: Did you mean you did not write a book in your notebook, or
you wrote a book in your not notebook? I hope your not book doesn't stink of wrotten fish. :grin:
you a big KAT. they the gov pull out all the organs and bones out of a tiger and sell in china. if you write what gov say stinky book in a NOTEBOOK they pull all organs out of you... place them in a glass containers, refrigerate and sell to american hospitals. a funny joke in chinese: usa is ghost chinatown. funny!!@!
 

win21

Banned
newb99 said:
Afraid not. It happened. And not on a cheap PRC device (Peoples Republic of China) whatever that may be, but on a standard Shufflemaster 1-2-6 CSM - the same ones that will be in Macau.

So are you saying that losing 13 out of 14 hands is impossible ?
you make me think stronger now you a casino op trained in prc. most thingks sold to you white westerners say made in your ghost town but they are made in china. yes, bmw say made in alemania it is made in germany. CSm say made in your ghost town but they are made in china. windows says made in redmouth, washington, ghost chinatown... but windows is made in china. like ibm is now made in prc.

i didnot say that losing 13 out of 14 hands is impossible... you say. why don't you use software to calculate. its not banned in your ghosttown. i use software banned in prxc because of the author. if they see saliu on you pc they arrest you. they get the software and pages from hong kong and burn to cd and dvd. i paid 5$ for a saliu dvd with everything from 2000 to 2008.

use superformula (E) to calculate EXACTLY 13 LOSSES IN 14 HANDS. we say probability to lose is 0.52 (52%). the chance is 1 in 732. who say impossible? you did. but you tricky. you said like losing 13 consecutive hands. but now is liky losing 4, winning 1, losing 9!!! you trickkY!!!
but if you lose again 13 in 14 mands the chance is 1 in 535824. only casinos can do that and the gov of prc who makes perfekt csm.

who player won 13 out of 14 hands and then again? did you/ did the big kat who is ying yang?
 

Sonny

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Same old song and dance

win21 said:
if they see saliu on you pc they arrest you. they get the software and pages from hong kong and burn to cd and dvd. i paid 5$ for a saliu dvd with everything from 2000 to 2008.
:laugh::laugh: Nice try! If a casino found Ion's crap on your computer they would give you a full RFB comp, not arrest you. In any case, it looks like we can add a new handle to the growing list of fake spam names.

Win21, Parpaluck, Neutron Bomb, North Wind, Ion, Saliu and a few others I let you get away with.

-Sonny-
 

UK-21

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I'm sure Shufflemaster's units are manufactured in China, but that doesn't mean they're built with any interference from the Chinese government. Or are you saying the Chinese authorities have tampered with the design and these things are able to manipulate the order in which the cards come out? Although it's possible it does stretch the imagination somewhat.

And sorry, but I haven't been trained by the Chinese casinos - in fact I've never been to China. You're definitely wrong there I'm afraid.

Oh, and my windows weren't made in China.

Enjoy your delusions . . .

:)
 

Katweezel

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ET Fan

newb99 said:
I'm sure Shufflemaster's units are manufactured in China, but that doesn't mean they're built with any interference from the Chinese government. Or are you saying the Chinese authorities have tampered with the design and these things are able to manipulate the order in which the cards come out? Although it's possible it does stretch the imagination somewhat.

And sorry, but I haven't been trained by the Chinese casinos - in fact I've never been to China. You're definitely wrong there I'm afraid.

Oh, and my windows weren't made in China.

Enjoy your delusions . . .

:)
Newb, I don't think Win21 was inferring the Chinese communist government interfere in the design and manufacture of CSMs. What he was getting at is designers and makers get extra-terrestrial help from this...
 

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