Weekend Warriors

sagefr0g

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Kasi said:
Good catch Wise One. .......................................
Anyway I hit the wrong button, I mean heat was coming lol. But it i splay-all. I'm using the Trainer here so I'm cheating knowing cards dealt lol.
thanx Kasi. was wondering about the differance.
probably i guess to better understand the spread sheets might be a good idea to read chapters 8, 9 & 10 of Don's Blackjack Attack?
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heat? like maybe you was sposed to be cuttin the grass instead of foolin around on the computer maybe? :joker:
 

Kasi

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sagefr0g said:
heat? like maybe you was sposed to be cuttin the grass instead of foolin around on the computer maybe? :joker:
Apparently you know the MAN song too lol...

I'M THE MAN .. I'M THE MAN

I DON'T TAKE NO CRAP FROM ANYBODY... else but you

WHAT I SAY AROUND HERE GOES... right out the window

THE SOONER YOU LEARN WHO'S BOSS ROUND HERE, the sooner you can give me my orders dear

I'LL WATCH SPORTS WHENEVER I WANT TO... get into trouble

I'LL WEAR THE PANTS AROUND HERE ...whenever you are done with the laundry

I'LL COME HOME WHEN I'M GOOD AND READY TO... sleep on the couch.

AND DON'T EXPECT ANY FLOWERS FROM ME...cause if I'm not mistaken you prefer jewelry.

I CAN HAVE SEX ANYTIME...you want

I'M A MAN WHO HAS NEEDS...but they're not that important

:grin:

And now that she graciously gave me my computer back after 4 hours, guess I'll go play a few hands lol.
 

jack.jackson

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sagefr0g said:
up $63,372.00
7,797 hands

had some good counts but losin em.
my superstition tells me i gettin backlash here :whip:

We're almost at 100k. Hang in there warriors.

Now if we could only get kasi's wife to let him play 15 more hands.

Is it Ka-zi or casey?
 
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aslan

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Maybe someone can play in a real casino, say, a $5 table, then multiply their results by five or ten for purposes of our "manual simulation." That would result in real life simulating, wouldn't it wise one?

BTW, I'm stuck up here in NYC on an emergency trip. Mother in law fell and couldn't get up. Used the button alert we provided her. The fire and rescue knocked down the door lol, so we ran up here in the middle of the night. Got the door fixed and she is back from the hospital, nothing wrong with her, just not strong enough to stand up after fall. She has a caregiver come in 7 hours a day; formerly we had her under 24/7 supervision for 17 months. The doctor says it will kill her if she has to go to a nursing home so we're letting her stay at home. The wondrous thing is that after a year and a half of horrible dementia that made her impossible to live with, suddenly after this latest episode she seems to have come to her senses and is a pleasure to be around. She went with us for the first time in 18 months out to dinner. She has been a recluse. Now she wants to get her hair done and go to Yonkers to play slots after 18 months never leaving her condo. Go figure!

Sorry for blabbing out everything. But it feels good to tell someone. Lol Deal with it. Lol

I'll try to get some BJ in up here but I left the results of a previous 100 hands in Virginia. lol Life is a trip! Lol
 

aslan

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sagefr0g said:
up $63,372.00
7,797 hands

had some good counts but losin em.
my superstition tells me i gettin backlash here :whip:
Welcome to the club, wise master! The funniest thing is that now I am using the free game here on BJinfo using $5 to simulate $50 due to the small BR they give you. I keep forgetting to stop at 62 cards remaining to simulate 80% pen so I have to throw away the results. It gets me all excited thinking I am really winning big only to find that I have played the entire six decks! Lol Just more proof not to play when you're tired in real life. Lol
 

sagefr0g

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aslan said:
Welcome to the club, wise master! The funniest thing is that now I am using the free game here on BJinfo using $5 to simulate $50 due to the small BR they give you. I keep forgetting to stop at 62 cards remaining to simulate 80% pen so I have to throw away the results. It gets me all excited thinking I am really winning big only to find that I have played the entire six decks! Lol Just more proof not to play when you're tired in real life. Lol
don't feel bad. i was gonna play cvbj all night tonight and really rack up some hands. instead i spent the night gettin the crap beat outa me by QFIT and zen in a debate over on the ZenZone. that ZenZone is a bad neighborhood lol stay clear. :cat:
i didn't even have a beer tonight cause i thought i was gonna be playin cvbj. dam if i'd a known i was gonna get stuck in the twighlight i mean zen zone i'd of got drunk.
 
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Kasi

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aslan said:
Welcome to the club, wise master! The funniest thing is that now I am using the free game here on BJinfo using $5 to simulate $50 due to the small BR they give you. I keep forgetting to stop at 62 cards remaining to simulate 80% pen so I have to throw away the results. It gets me all excited thinking I am really winning big only to find that I have played the entire six decks! Lol Just more proof not to play when you're tired in real life. Lol
Hi Aslan - sorry to hear about your mom-in-law. That's tough. Puts this silly game in perspective that's for sure. Hang in there. Thanks for sharing.

I forget what spread you are using but I'm using the trainer here too with a $5 unit and spreading 1,6,13,20,24 units. Multiply by 5 later lol. I just exit the game and start with $1K each new shoe since I can't figure out any other way to force a shuffle sooner. If I lose more than 200 units in a shoe I'll deal with it somehow lol.

It looked maybe like from Ken's code it will reshuffle automatically with 1 deck remaining anyway. Haven't gotten that far yet lol. But, if so, it's only 12 more cards and I wouldn't throw the results away. Maybe just note it. What counter is going to walk away anyway if the dealer keeps dealing? :)

I guess you could use results from a real casino at $5 if you could find more or less the same game.,etc. If that ain't "real-life simulating", I don't know what would be lol. But, don't do it for our sake that's for sure. It won't be the same game, if it is, spreading 1-24 might be unrealistic anyway, it won't be heads-up, roll risk, etc.

The idea is, if you really want to do that, run a sim for yourself and hopefully you will be able to measure real results against that. Do you think you would be able to do that - maybe you were doing it anyway before this lol.

And, thank heaven, Wise One is coming back to earth - a little anyway lol.

I'm off to a slow start but that's OK - I'll be adding results for a long time for the heck of it just to see what happens. No hurry. Maybe someday we get to the point where it's pretty clear we'd win money forever. Just to maybe add a little ammo that's maybe it's at least possible that maybe this "math" stuff (sims) possibly has some validity. Even if the game and spread might be a little unrealistic in real life, even if playing all hands, and quite possibly not the best use of a $100K roll.

I don't know - maybe the thread is too long, maybe all this is in alot of ways not worthwhile from any practical point of view or something, perhaps like zg says lol.

Still, I'd enjoy any comments from Bojack, Sonny, RJB, rukus, bj avenger, anybody lol what the heck they make of it lol.

Of course the biggest mystery of all to me is how quickly and easily The Wise One abandoned "fuzzy counting" and by all markers like avg bet, number of counts played at what, etc seems to be able to count and convert TC and bet with extreme accuracy over thousands and thousands of hands as verified by CVBJ which keeps track of such things.

He'll probably be getting calls now from card-counter headhunters lol.
 

aslan

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sagefr0g said:
don't feel bad. i was gonna play cvbj all night tonight and really rack up some hands. instead i spent the night gettin the crap beat outa me by QFIT and zen in a debate over on the ZenZone. that ZenZone is a bad neighborhood lol stay clear. :cat:
i didn't even have a beer tonight cause i thought i was gonna be playin cvbj. dam if i'd a known i was gonna get stuck in the twighlight i mean zen zone i'd of got drunk.
I saw you in the crossfire over there. Lol I think I put in a few words myself. In the final analysis I think it is impossible to win an argument. But there's nothing wrong with stating your point of view. I'm trying to work on being gentle in my responses and not taking the bait when provoked. But I admit it's not my nature. Lol
 

sagefr0g

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Kasi said:
Hi Aslan - sorry to hear about your mom-in-law. That's tough. Puts this silly game in perspective that's for sure. Hang in there. Thanks for sharing.
yes me too Aslan. but happy to hear it sounds like she rebounded and maybe even improved.
Kasi said:
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Still, I'd enjoy any comments from Bojack, Sonny, RJB, rukus, bj avenger, anybody lol what the heck they make of it lol.
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same here. things like does it seem normal to them. what they might think of our analysis spreadsheets. what ever.
Kasi said:
...And, thank heaven, Wise One is coming back to earth - a little anyway lol.
Of course the biggest mystery of all to me is how quickly and easily The Wise One abandoned "fuzzy counting" and by all markers like avg bet, number of counts played at what, etc seems to be able to count and convert TC and bet with extreme accuracy over thousands and thousands of hands as verified by CVBJ which keeps track of such things.

He'll probably be getting calls now from card-counter headhunters lol.
yeah i'm droppin back down to earth like a fallen angle lol. :angel: :devil:
frustrating enough on the computer. i'd be cryin like a baby in the real deal even sweet as it's been. lol i guess i'm just a basket case.
i gotta say all this practice has been really good for my 'really' counting skills.
still i freeze up quite a bit from time to time. become uncertain. it's like when i concentrate so much to keep the count at some point it's like i feel i'm in the twighlight zone or something i dunno. but i gotta say that with a decent penetration level like 80% i wouldn't be using the fuzzy approach. just to often you get a decent count near the end. you'd never realize it with the fuzzy approach. still with the crap penetration games i play i would probably regress and fall back to doin half orthodox and then if the count went crap or sky high just fuzzy count at some point where the pack had been dealt out as if i was wonging out lol but really still playing min bets.
but you've seen how awesome i am in real play :rolleyes: lol so you know there ain't much worry about some team snapping me up. :)
 

Kasi

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sagefr0g said:
but you've seen how awesome i am in real play :rolleyes: lol so you know there ain't much worry about some team snapping me up. :)
And even more awesome doing this cr*p :)

But we can dream of 19 more guys just like you with $5K betting to a $100K roll and doubling their investment every week even if you individually happened to finish in the negative that week :)

And if any of this has helped in anyway to help you decide whether it's worth playing or not whatever game you are near to in whatever way with whatever roll you may choose to bet to just because you have a clearer idea of how to go about what to expect from it all, then, I'd say, mission accomplished lol.


We're not supposed to double our roll for another 60,000 hands anyway so no worries mate lol.
 

sagefr0g

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house of pain

tryed to put together some screen shots from my logs of some memorable events while i lost around $11,000.00 in about 2000 hands or so......
note third column is amount bet, fifth column is true count
also included bjinfoteamspread sheet for the number of hands played where the loss was incurred
 

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Canceler

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I was going to wait until something interesting happened before posting my results again, but I’ve been boringly hovering too close to zero for a long time now. Here’s the way it’s been going: First hand of shoe #360 I get 9/4 vs. 7. I draw a 7. Lookin’ good! Dealer has a 4 in the hole, then draws 3, then 7. No, I’m not embarrassed at all about swearing at my computer.

This afternoon I’m going to take a little trip to play a game with nearly the same conditions we have here. Except my min bet will be somewhat less than $25, and I won’t be using any 1-24 spread! Maybe since the BJ gods have been having their way with me during my Weekend Warrior play, they’ll give me a break when I play for real. :joker: I’d be satisfied to win enough to pay for the gas, though.
 

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aslan

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sagefr0g said:
yes me too Aslan. but happy to hear it sounds like she rebounded and maybe even improved.
I thought so, but by the next day she was back into her usual psychotic state. I don't know what to make of it, but for just one day out of 18 months, she was perfectly normal. Go figure! :sad:
 

sagefr0g

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aslan said:
I thought so, but by the next day she was back into her usual psychotic state. I don't know what to make of it, but for just one day out of 18 months, she was perfectly normal. Go figure! :sad:
ahh sorry she relapsed. you know it would be interesting what a medical professional would have to say about that. i've heard of situations like that where as strange as it may be some sort of trauma is associated with an unexpected improvement. so but anyway i know it's a tough one for all involved.
 

aslan

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Using KO, 1 to 10 spread, $50 min, $500 max

912 more hands -$20

897........2,451
912..........-20
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1,809......$2,431
Total.......Total
Hands......Dollars
 

sagefr0g

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Weekend Warriors:

Rules:6D,S17,DA2,DAS,/HA-.40

Conditions:Headsup,Playall,80%,Pen,100KBR


Warriors:

-----------Dollars.........Hands played

Sagefrog//+54,010$......9,162
Canceler//+436.00$.....17,062
Ghostrider+21,537$.....11,269
Aslan////+2,431$..........1,809
K_C/////+750$............91
Kasi/////+425$.............192

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Total:+79,589$.......39,585
 
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