What will you do if people beg for money?
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aslan
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I worked with homeless who made their living panhandling. Their biggest stories were to the effect that some guy drove up in a limousine, rolled down the window, and gave them a hundred dollar bill. Do you know how rare that is? I can tell you, the stories like that that they told, you could count on one hand. Mostly they are alcoholics or drug addicts. Money will usually go to more alcohol or drugs. Some do have bank accounts. This keeps them from being robbed on the street, and for a few, it's their ticket back into society.21forme said:
Automatic Monkey
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Prostitutes can make far more than that. $150K for a cocktail waitress is possible if she works in the right kind of place and can get enough hours in. Not too many places schedule them for 40 hour weeks, because if it's a desirable job they can always find part-timers and have less worries about being shorthanded.shadroch said:
aslan
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haha I saw the movie, but my recall of movie plots is really sorry. haha Believe me, this guy was no fake. I remember when they had to get a couple of stout guys to lift him up to the bench for dinner. Criss Angel couldn't have pulled that one off. Sorry I took you literally. It's hard to see tone of voice and inflections online.21forme said:
aslan
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Friend of mine who worked the desk at a Vegas hotel said the girls who were working the gentlemen's clubs were making $6 to $8K a week, but it all went to drugs and gambling. They would arrive on buses from all over the country, young, fresh and wholesome looking, he said, and six months later they looked like hell.Automatic Monkey said:
KimLee
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Most would not work. If they are mentally ill then they definitely shouldn't be in casinos. I have seen them refuse food. If they wanted food then they would beg in a grocery store, not a casino.Blue Efficacy said:
Gambling degenerates in a casino are the worst candidates for charity. You may as well give it to the casino directly. Don't give it to healthy males. Give it to the families they abandoned. Then they can hit rock-bottom faster and recover.
Automatic Monkey
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Absolutely correct, they have plenty of food from the social services and won't eat something given them by a stranger.KimLee said:
The beggars in a casino, I don't see them as gamblers, I see them as hustling AP's and for all I know they might not be any more into gambling than I am. They could be merely using the paraphernalia of gambling for a profit, just like we do.
Atlantic City hustlers- my story
Several years ago before they built up Atlantic City, beggars were teeming there. I remember one time in Bally's (back before the h-17 fiasco) when I had a beggar following me from table to table and after some time, he tried to extract money from me saying, "Hey man, we're a team!" When I told him politely I appreciate him rooting for me but I'm not here to give out money, he got a little mad. Luckily there was a security guard who apparently was a pro at his job because he picked up on what was happening and quickly escorted the gentleman out of the casino.
Trump Plaza was notorious for having beggars in there and I've had times in the past at the Borgata where nice looking ladies pretended to flirt with me, probably to also hustle me. I told them sorry gals, but I have a g/f. That seemed to shock them as they apparently weren't used to men saying no to them.
In AC, it's rare that you can walk up the boardwalk without encountering a few beggars. Whatever you do, don't walk late at night by yourself off of the boardwalk or Pacific Ave. Outside of those areas, AC is dangerous at night.
When I get approached by a beggar, now I just say to them, McDonalds is hiring. That pisses them off but it works.
Several years ago before they built up Atlantic City, beggars were teeming there. I remember one time in Bally's (back before the h-17 fiasco) when I had a beggar following me from table to table and after some time, he tried to extract money from me saying, "Hey man, we're a team!" When I told him politely I appreciate him rooting for me but I'm not here to give out money, he got a little mad. Luckily there was a security guard who apparently was a pro at his job because he picked up on what was happening and quickly escorted the gentleman out of the casino.
Trump Plaza was notorious for having beggars in there and I've had times in the past at the Borgata where nice looking ladies pretended to flirt with me, probably to also hustle me. I told them sorry gals, but I have a g/f. That seemed to shock them as they apparently weren't used to men saying no to them.
In AC, it's rare that you can walk up the boardwalk without encountering a few beggars. Whatever you do, don't walk late at night by yourself off of the boardwalk or Pacific Ave. Outside of those areas, AC is dangerous at night.
When I get approached by a beggar, now I just say to them, McDonalds is hiring. That pisses them off but it works.
Here's a good one. I was at Casino Royale playing a slot with an advantage. Guy was there, and he knew what I was doing. He basically hustled a civilian off a machine, ensuring that I had a lock win. While he was trying to talk this guy into cashing out, I was strongly hinting for him to stop, because I don't think what he was doing was ethical. He was basically lying to the guy to get him to cash out.
I ended up playing another few +EV situations on the machine, and he wanted me to toss him a couple bucks because he "helped me out"
To his credit, he did point me towards a few other machines that I hadn't noticed before. I ended up giving him $5 and I felt really dirty about it because he clearly had a gambling problem, but even though I didn't want him to, he definitely helped me lock up about $25 in EV.
I ended up playing another few +EV situations on the machine, and he wanted me to toss him a couple bucks because he "helped me out"
To his credit, he did point me towards a few other machines that I hadn't noticed before. I ended up giving him $5 and I felt really dirty about it because he clearly had a gambling problem, but even though I didn't want him to, he definitely helped me lock up about $25 in EV.
creeping panther
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Kim
All this time I figured you for a righteous family man
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CP
Shame on you!KimLee said:
All this time I figured you for a righteous family man
:sad:CP
BJgenius007
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What if your buddy begs for money?
Earlier today at the Rivers casino, I saw this. A young man at his early 20's came to my table without chips. It was 6 AM so he found an empty seat. And apparently he knows another young man who was playing. After coaching his friends a few hands, he told his friend better to play 2 hands to have a better chance of winning. He hustled $10 from his friend and quickly lost it. ($10 is table minimal.) Although he kept high-fiving and cheerleading his friend, he no longer can "borrow" chips from his friend. But he still sat at our table for another 20 minutes until another player came and requested his seat. To me it is quite annoying since he is over-enthusiastic and he was not playing!
Based on the lukewarm reaction from his buddy the whole time, he might be just someone he met at the casino. But assuming it is really his buddy in real life, will you lend your friend money to keep playing after he lost all his money?
I have a follow-up question for you guys. What will you do if you buddy begs for money?BJgenius007 said:
Earlier today at the Rivers casino, I saw this. A young man at his early 20's came to my table without chips. It was 6 AM so he found an empty seat. And apparently he knows another young man who was playing. After coaching his friends a few hands, he told his friend better to play 2 hands to have a better chance of winning. He hustled $10 from his friend and quickly lost it. ($10 is table minimal.) Although he kept high-fiving and cheerleading his friend, he no longer can "borrow" chips from his friend. But he still sat at our table for another 20 minutes until another player came and requested his seat. To me it is quite annoying since he is over-enthusiastic and he was not playing!
Based on the lukewarm reaction from his buddy the whole time, he might be just someone he met at the casino. But assuming it is really his buddy in real life, will you lend your friend money to keep playing after he lost all his money?
paddywhack
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A trusted friend, most likely.BJgenius007 said:
A casino aquaintance or old time buddy - no way!!
blackchipjim
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rules
It should be against your rules to loan money to gamblers. Donate your alms to the less fortunate at church the trully poor don't hang at casinos. I make it a point to look for the priest who collects on the street on the strip everytime I'm there.
My wife admonished me once because I threw a legless man a few bucks on the strip once. My reply to her was " You can't fake no legs".
It should be against your rules to loan money to gamblers. Donate your alms to the less fortunate at church the trully poor don't hang at casinos. I make it a point to look for the priest who collects on the street on the strip everytime I'm there.
My wife admonished me once because I threw a legless man a few bucks on the strip once. My reply to her was " You can't fake no legs".
BJgenius007
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Once I saw this at Mountaineer casino in West Virginia. One stranger loaned another stranger $200. All he needs is to copy her address on her driver license and her promise to mail him $200 check. And he also checked the driver license matches her player's card.blackchipjim said: