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God I wish I had a Dime for every time I tried explaining this to some superstitious player.
Thanks for putting it in writing finally, I can just point people to this article from now on and save my breath.
Uno de los casinos locales tiene un par de mesas con reglas extrañas, como una en la que la casa pagará por un doble o split bajo ciertas condiciones. ¿Hay alguna forma fácil de calcular las probabilidades de estas rarezas?
En general, la mayoría de estas variantes inusuales son muy difíciles de analizar con las herramientas existentes. Hay que ser capaz de escribir su propio software para hacerlo.
Your website rocks. I use the Wong Halves count but I’m curious whether another betting system is more efficient for single deck games. I believe most of the benefit from the halves system is from the betting precision, but I’m not sure whether in a single deck game that could be outweighed by a system with a higher playing efficiency. Assuming no obstacles for learning a new system, which would be the Utopian single deck system in your opinion?
You must play in Reno, because there aren’t many other places where this question is still relevant!
Personally, I chose the Halves count because of the high BE that you noted. Counts with a higher PE generally require a side count of Aces, which I just didn’t like doing. It’s not keeping the Ace side count that was annoying to me, but rather the adjustments needed to then utilize it.
Since my play was mostly double deck games, I have not done comparisons for single deck play. Sorry.
I also have often stated that were I learning a system today, I would stick with a very simple system, either Hi-Lo or KO. Single deck might be worth an exception.
When I started counting I wanted to learn the “best” system, so I only learned that system. Only later I realized that DD and SD games might be beaten more efficiently with higher PC. I ended up learning the Hi-lo eventually (only system I know about for Spanish 21), and I would have just switched to that had I not already memorized the damn indices for the halves.
So I really appreciate your response.
P.S. Don’t give up on SD just yet, Cali has a few decent (but not amazing) SD games too.
It’s clear you never heard of “Jim’s rhythm system”.
I can’t reveal the details, but it’s a modified anti martingale system that limits your losses and maximizes your gains, best played on a 6 deck shoe, and playing two hands or one hand, depending on the circumstance. If other players at the table don’t like you ‘changing up the cards’ by being in and out with one or two hands, you may want to find an empty table. You will never draw attention from the pit, and you never count cards. This system will lose more than it wins,but the wins can be huge.
¿Alguien conoce a Kevin Barton? Es mi padre y lo he estado buscando durante 19 años. Es un jugador de blackjack muy conocido contador de cartas por favor cualquier información sobre mi padre sería muy apreciada
Hi Ken ! thanks for all. I would know if is possible to buy the advanced card set in ebook format or something like that because the shipping charges regard my country are really high.
I agree. The true count must be calculated in when deciding wether to hit or stay during a hand. Rigidly adhering to bs doesn’t seem to make sense to me. Or so it seems
I’ve played my fair share of blackjack in actual casinos. Many of it counting cards. This happens nearly every time. It’s a real pisser….you put all that time and effort into learning how to count cards only to realize the count is negative so often and usually right out of the gate. It’s very seldom the count goes high or in your favor. Counting cards certainly works but if you’re careful not to expose yourself by betting large amounts while the count is high you end up barely getting by. I’ve been working on progressive betting strategies for years now with no luck finding the perfect one.
Apparently you did not read the description at the top of the page. The Ace and Ten columns are after the dealer has checked for blackjack and did not have it. That method is far more useful for most purposes than including blackjack in the normal totals.
La respuesta simple es que si acierta 15vA en el juego S17, perderá menos de la mitad de su apuesta en promedio (es alrededor de -0,48 o -0,49). ¿Por qué el consejo difiere entre los juegos H17 y S17? (Debería acertar 15vA en S17, pero rendirse 15vA en H17.) El total final de los crupieres será en promedio un poco más alto en H17, haciendo que sus posibilidades sean peores al acertar. Pero básicamente, la estrategia básica es a menudo difícil de explicar con una razón simple. Es una combinación de muchas variables. Simplemente confíe en las matemáticas. Todos los resultados posibles se ponderan a la hora de decidir la estrategia óptima. Para gráficos personalizados, asegúrese de utilizar nuestro Motor de estrategia.
A push sucks if I double my 11 v dealer 6 and he sucks out a 21 on me.
God I wish I had a Dime for every time I tried explaining this to some superstitious player.
Thanks for putting it in writing finally, I can just point people to this article from now on and save my breath.
Uno de los casinos locales tiene un par de mesas con reglas extrañas, como una en la que la casa pagará por un doble o split bajo ciertas condiciones. ¿Hay alguna forma fácil de calcular las probabilidades de estas rarezas?
Eso suena como Blackjack Apuesta Gratis. Consulte este sitio para obtener más detalles al respecto:
http://discountgambling.net/2012/06/22/free-bet-blackjack-golden-nugget-lv/
En general, la mayoría de estas variantes inusuales son muy difíciles de analizar con las herramientas existentes. Hay que ser capaz de escribir su propio software para hacerlo.
Hola Ken,
Your website rocks. I use the Wong Halves count but I’m curious whether another betting system is more efficient for single deck games. I believe most of the benefit from the halves system is from the betting precision, but I’m not sure whether in a single deck game that could be outweighed by a system with a higher playing efficiency. Assuming no obstacles for learning a new system, which would be the Utopian single deck system in your opinion?
You must play in Reno, because there aren’t many other places where this question is still relevant!
Personally, I chose the Halves count because of the high BE that you noted. Counts with a higher PE generally require a side count of Aces, which I just didn’t like doing. It’s not keeping the Ace side count that was annoying to me, but rather the adjustments needed to then utilize it.
Since my play was mostly double deck games, I have not done comparisons for single deck play. Sorry.
I also have often stated that were I learning a system today, I would stick with a very simple system, either Hi-Lo or KO. Single deck might be worth an exception.
Here are a couple of links that may be helpful.
You probably already know about this comparison of counts: https://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm
Here’s an interesting collaborative effort from the boards: https://www.blackjackinfo.com/knowledge-base/blackjack-card-counting/bjinfo-open-source-ubz-ii-v0-5/
Thanks, Ken.
When I started counting I wanted to learn the “best” system, so I only learned that system. Only later I realized that DD and SD games might be beaten more efficiently with higher PC. I ended up learning the Hi-lo eventually (only system I know about for Spanish 21), and I would have just switched to that had I not already memorized the damn indices for the halves.
So I really appreciate your response.
P.S. Don’t give up on SD just yet, Cali has a few decent (but not amazing) SD games too.
¿alguien ha usado snyders red seven count?
It’s clear you never heard of “Jim’s rhythm system”.
I can’t reveal the details, but it’s a modified anti martingale system that limits your losses and maximizes your gains, best played on a 6 deck shoe, and playing two hands or one hand, depending on the circumstance. If other players at the table don’t like you ‘changing up the cards’ by being in and out with one or two hands, you may want to find an empty table. You will never draw attention from the pit, and you never count cards. This system will lose more than it wins,but the wins can be huge.
Great helpful advice re martingale. The pushes and table maximums make any negative progression a terrible strategy.
¿Alguien conoce a Kevin Barton? Es mi padre y lo he estado buscando durante 19 años. Es un jugador de blackjack muy conocido contador de cartas por favor cualquier información sobre mi padre sería muy apreciada
Sorry Roberto, I don’t have an electronic version available. I may consider that in the future though.
Hi Ken ! thanks for all. I would know if is possible to buy the advanced card set in ebook format or something like that because the shipping charges regard my country are really high.
I sent an email to ‘observer’, in case he is interested in connecting with you.
You figured out how to count the side bets?
That’s extremely lucrative.
Can we talk?
I agree. The true count must be calculated in when deciding wether to hit or stay during a hand. Rigidly adhering to bs doesn’t seem to make sense to me. Or so it seems
I’ve played my fair share of blackjack in actual casinos. Many of it counting cards. This happens nearly every time. It’s a real pisser….you put all that time and effort into learning how to count cards only to realize the count is negative so often and usually right out of the gate. It’s very seldom the count goes high or in your favor. Counting cards certainly works but if you’re careful not to expose yourself by betting large amounts while the count is high you end up barely getting by. I’ve been working on progressive betting strategies for years now with no luck finding the perfect one.
Apparently you did not read the description at the top of the page. The Ace and Ten columns are after the dealer has checked for blackjack and did not have it. That method is far more useful for most purposes than including blackjack in the normal totals.
Index numbers for the Hi-Lo count always use the true count.
La respuesta simple es que si acierta 15vA en el juego S17, perderá menos de la mitad de su apuesta en promedio (es alrededor de -0,48 o -0,49). ¿Por qué el consejo difiere entre los juegos H17 y S17? (Debería acertar 15vA en S17, pero rendirse 15vA en H17.) El total final de los crupieres será en promedio un poco más alto en H17, haciendo que sus posibilidades sean peores al acertar. Pero básicamente, la estrategia básica es a menudo difícil de explicar con una razón simple. Es una combinación de muchas variables. Simplemente confíe en las matemáticas. Todos los resultados posibles se ponderan a la hora de decidir la estrategia óptima. Para gráficos personalizados, asegúrese de utilizar nuestro Motor de estrategia.