daddybo said:
That is probably the stupidest statement I have ever heard anyone make. That would mean all assets are fixed in quantity and some people just aren't letting other people have them.
It takes work and/or occasional luck. Mostly a lot of discipline and work. You have to be willing to do what is necessary to succeed. You have to pick your sorry ass back up when you get hammered... you have to use your head.
I really hate this kind of whining. :cry:" I would have some money if all the mean old rich people didn't have it all or would GIVE me some." :cry: I hope my rich uncle dies and leaves me some money...I can sit on my ass and wait. :cry:
If you think anybody deserves anything just because they are the product of the sperm that made the trip... you are sadly mistaken and in for a long disappointing life.
Let's see you find a way to create more land, which in the end is the only form of wealth that really matters.
Did I ever say that rich people should give poor people money? While I believe this is true in a way (see: taxation) I did not specificly state this in my post and you foolishly assumed that.
If a rich person consumes a large proportion of an available food supply, wasting much of it, and the peasants are starving, well, I look at someone who sees these two situations as not being connected as pretty damn stupid. Since we are going to call people stupid on this board if they say something we don't agree with.
Scarcity is a basic principle on which economics is based. Pretty stupid.
And if you have a group of people who are consuming a disproportionate amount of resources, then obviously the remainder of the population has less available.
I guess I am stupid for not thinking the poor group of people isn't working hard or is disciplined enough to make more land, more resources, etc magically appear out of thin air.
Sure, some assets are not fixed, but many are. Some of the most important assets in the world are fixed. Land and water, both fixed. And even if they are not fixed, a few greedy hoarders can make it so there is none left for the rest of us no matter what the situation. The white settlers stole a lot of land from the Native Americans. But according to daddybo, all they needed to do was work hard, buckle down, use their heads and create more land. :laugh:
I love your line of thinking though. You more or less dismiss the fact that many rich people do nothing to get their wealth, and many people who are talented and have worked hard their whole life and have nothing to show for it. Also, it can be debated how ethical some of these rich people are when acquiring their wealth, to be sure.
Life is like one shoe of BJ. Being hard working and skilled improves your chances, but you can still get burned while the fool sitting next to you can win every hand. Some of the successful players do it through luck, some through determined study of the game and hard work, and others use outright cheating.
Sorry to be long winded but I despise when people get on the high horse of "all poor people deserve to be poor because they are dirty and lazy, flea ridden vermin, and rich people deserve everything they have because they are all beautiful, intelligent, benevolent creatures who have earned everything the hard way." And furthermore, i despise it even more when these people directly insult me and my intelligence.
I may clash with daddybo's narrow minded views. That doesn't make me stupid.
