PA Blackjack Update

[aslan]

Aslan,
What would you say then to the person who got laid off from their job, then has a spouse who needs to be treated for cancer and because he lost his job, no longer has health insurance. That right there is a prime example of why many good people find themselves in big trouble and end up in poverty.

We're getting far afield from PA Update but in short I did say that there are those who find themselves victims of tragic circumstances. I am not sure what you are asking? You wouldn't tell them their troubles are insurmountable, would you? You wouldn't tell them that because their tragic circumstances were beyond their control (I'm assuming they were) that they are justified and should therefore stop trying, would you? I hope you would encourage them to try to get another job and to seek different venues for health care treatment. I hope you realize that even people who have insurance are not covered for every treatment available? Those who did not die survived the great depression. Some never gave up and eventually succeeded in getting on their feet. Some did not try and began a cycle of entrenched poverty which they handed down to the next generation. Others, I know, no matter how hard they tried, could not overcome their tragic circumstances entirely. I hope the government and private organizations and private persons like yourself and myself do their part to take care of these very unfortunate persons.

 

[aslan]

No, they deserved it. They must not have prayed hard enough. Or they are dirty, lazy people who fought off poverty to that point by sheer luck which finally ran out.

Maybe if they worked harder their company wouldn't have laid them off. If they had, they could have single handedly stopped their plant from being closed.

You know, blue efficacy that I never said or implied anything that you're condemning me for, or are stereotyping me as. I'll just suppose you got up on the wrong side of the bed.

 

[pieinthesky]

Is there . . .

a wealth redistribution thread at which I can find info on blackjack in PA?

 

[aslan]

I love it, you don't think people should have affordable health care (of course medical costs are one of the largest reasons people find themselves in poverty) but people shouldn't be poor either. The choices, die or be poor.

You must honestly think your God is just smiting those he doesn't like.

You're aiming your ire in the wrong direction. To disagree on how health care is implemented is not an unethical position. I'd rather have more rules and law, and less direct gov't control over health care. To demonize a different approach from the one you happen to take is neither fair nor helpful in the discussion.

We had universal health care long before Obama appeared on the horizon. What we didn't have was protection for those who would go bankrupt before free care kicked in. Those who are really poor have always had health care, and I know that from first hand experience working with the homeless. It's the poor guy who couldn't get insurance through no fault of his own, or who could only get insurance at the expense of other necessities, such as food and rent, that is the problem. Government should make rules to cover these circumstances. If there are more circumstances, I'm sure someone will remind me.

No one is promised prosperity, only equal opportunity. I may work hard all my life and still be poor, but I have the opportunity to better my lot, and I have a pretty good chance in this country to do just that. No one owes me a living. I don't want a handout, if I can help it. I know homeless. Some work their way back into society. Many stay drunk and high, and do nothing to help themselves more than find a meal and a fix from day to day. Some just need a helping hand. Others take advantage of a helping hand. Give one man food and he'll eat it, another man will sell it for drugs. I've been up one side and down the other in this. It's not a black and white area.

If God smites anyone, as you say, who can say? There are millions of poor and disadvantaged Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, you name it, around the world. Does that mean he's smiting his friends? Sorry, I'm not a Bible thumper.

 

[aslan]

Does anyone know where there's a list the places in PA where table games will be offered?

 

[21forme]

Does anyone know where there's a list the places in PA where table games will be offered?

Table games approved for 2 casinos in Pennsylvania
By The Associated Press
March 17, 2010, 9:32AM

Poker, blackjack and other table games should be up and running at two Pennsylvania casinos later this year.

The Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board on Tuesday approved the first two petitions filed under a new law that allows table games to be added to the state’s slot-machine casinos. The initial approvals are for the Mohegan Sun Casino at the Pocono Downs racetrack near Wilkes-Barre and Parx Casino at the Philadelphia Park racetrack in suburban Philadelphia.

Officials from the two casinos told the gaming board they would hire almost 1,000 new full-time employees to staff the table games. Each of the casino owners must pay a $16.5 million table games license fee by June 1.

The public can weigh in on whether the Hollywood Casino at Penn National in Dauphin County should get table games. The Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board is holding a public hearing at 10 a.m. on March 24 at the East Hanover Township Municipal building.

 

[aslan]

Table games approved for 2 casinos in Pennsylvania
By The Associated Press
March 17, 2010, 9:32AM

Poker, blackjack and other table games should be up and running at two Pennsylvania casinos later this year.

The Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board on Tuesday approved the first two petitions filed under a new law that allows table games to be added to the state’s slot-machine casinos. The initial approvals are for the Mohegan Sun Casino at the Pocono Downs racetrack near Wilkes-Barre and Parx Casino at the Philadelphia Park racetrack in suburban Philadelphia.

Officials from the two casinos told the gaming board they would hire almost 1,000 new full-time employees to staff the table games. Each of the casino owners must pay a $16.5 million table games license fee by June 1.

The public can weigh in on whether the Hollywood Casino at Penn National in Dauphin County should get table games. The Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board is holding a public hearing at 10 a.m. on March 24 at the East Hanover Township Municipal building.

The Hollywood Casino, if they approved it, is only 140 miles from me, better than the 210 mile trek to AC.

 

[ChefJJ]

FYI - Penn National got their approval shortly after that March 24th hearing referenced in the article above.

 

[aslan]

Hollywood Casino to Hire Hundreds to Run Table Games


Grantville, Pa. - The Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course plans to add 300 to 400 "well-paying jobs" once table games are added to the slot machine casino in Grantville, Dauphin County, according to company officials.

Casino officials are confident that table games will be legalized by the Legislature and will be very popular with a younger crowd. The only table games currently at the casino are the virtual kind.

It takes more people to operate a table game, according to Hollywood Casino General Manager Frank Quigley. "A craps table for instance, you need four dealers and two supervisors for the day," he said.

Quigley said the jobs require several weeks of training and pay up to $40,000 a year. The casino expects to operate 40 table games - including blackjack, craps, roulette and baccarat - in addition to 10 to 15 poker tables.

"What I don't want to do is go out and overbuild this business and have to scale it back later on," Quigley said.

State lawmakers are still deciding the license fee and tax rate for table games. Once that happens, Quigley expects it will take six to nine months to get them up and running at Hollywood Casino.

 

[b jay cobbson]

Debits and credits

I know what you mean. My brother is a CPA and has no interest in it. I think he may have tried it once. He says having to concentrate on counting takes the fun out of playing.

Tell your brother that after a hundred thousand or so hands counting doesn't require concentration anymore, just like touch typing on a qwerty keyboard. Also, CPAs are natural card counters because the debit's (+) always equal the credits (-) in a balanced system and end where they should in an unbalanced one. CPAs like that sort of stuff.

Jay Cobbson

 

[Sharky]

aslan,aslan, aslan, someone else, aslan, aslan, someone else, aslan

congrats aslan...you managed to post 6 of 8 consecutive messages...that has to be some kind of record or something....you really don't need the rest of us

3 of them were successive no less..too funny...i suggest an ALL aslan thread

 

[aslan]

congrats aslan...you managed to post 6 of 8 consecutive messages...that has to be some kind of record or something....you really don't need the rest of us

3 of them were successive no less..too funny...i suggest an ALL aslan thread

Hahaha Sorry, but I was away all day and when I returned several people had addressed me, so I answered them. That's all. :laugh:

 

[blackjack avenger]

Limited Thinking, Limited Results?

But also it must be considered that there is a certain point where no more wealth can be generated. Or no more wheat can be grown. Etc.

No resource is infinite.

Btw sorry for derailing the topic.

I wonder if dark ages Europe thought growth of wheat was limited?
Then the new world was discovered and with it more wheat.
Also, knowledge and technology has allowed more wheat growth per acre of land. This trend will continue.
In the future we will grow wheat in space, moon or other planets.
When we can remove salt from sea water cheaply, the desserts will bloom.
If, if you don't have limited thinking.

We also now get oil out of fields that were considered empty.

Wealth grows over time, we are far richer then the nobles of dark ages Europe.

Limited water? I think we have found evidence of water beyond Earth?

:joker::whip:

 

[iwantblackjack]

Did everyone know that the PGCB has a 55% tax rate on gross revenue for all slot and video machines, including the video electronic BJ games and roullette? With the table games, PGCB stated a 15-16% tax rate on gross revenue from the table games; while both NJ and NV tax rate are below 10%. Separably, any1 know the rules planned at Mohegan Sun Pocono Downs (will it be the same as Mohegan Sun in Uncasville, CT), and will they merge the players card system? The parx? Sands Bethlehem? Hollywood at Penn National? Rivers? The Meadows? Mount Airy? Presque Isle Downs? SugarHouse? Het chester (nevermind them).
Any1 know the status of Maryland, Ohio, New Hampshire's issues on bringing gambling to their states? Florida passed a bill giving Seminole Tribe exclusive rights to operate Vegas-style slots outside of South Florida for 20 years, and allows them to operate BJ and baccarat at 5 of its 7 facilities for 5 yeras. Their tax rate gets lowered from 50% to 35%. They get exclusivity to table games. MA is on their way for 2 resort-style casinos.

 

[blackchipjim]

Tables in Pa.

I was in the area of Presque Isle and stopped in to see the state of slot parlor there last week. They really need regular tables there bad. Slot zombies all over pouring their hard earned money into the machines and getting that glazed look in their eyes. The people or zombies even were sitting at the virtual bj and three card poker machines slowing being drained of their life force. I really hope that Pa. doesn't screw up and have really bad table rules for their games when they open them in July.

 

[kewljason]

I was in the area of Presque Isle and stopped in to see the state of slot parlor there last week. They really need regular tables there bad. Slot zombies all over pouring their hard earned money into the machines and getting that glazed look in their eyes. The people or zombies even were sitting at the virtual bj and three card poker machines slowing being drained of their life force. I really hope that Pa. doesn't screw up and have really bad table rules for their games when they open them in July.

Delaware begins table games this friday (memorial day weekend). That should offer our first hint of whether east coast blackjack will improve (as we all hope) with the additions of these new locations. If one offers bad rules and conditions, others like Pa and Ohio are more likely to follow suit.

 

[creeping panther]

Kj

Delaware begins table games this friday (memorial day weekend). That should offer our first hint of whether east coast blackjack will improve (as we all hope) with the additions of these new locations. If one offers bad rules and conditions, others like Pa and Ohio are more likely to follow suit.

They will follow suit only for awhile.

Competition and free markets,,,and an educated buyer always win out in the end.

It is up to us to educate the buyer.

Your friend,
CP

 

[kewljason]

:laugh::laugh:

They will follow suit only for awhile.

Competition and free markets,,,and an educated buyer always win out in the end.

It is up to us to educate the buyer.

Your friend,
CP

Good luck with that! The tables on the east coast are filled with ploppies willing to play H17 black jack, 6-5 blackjack, and in the case of resorts AC, pay a 25 cent ante to play a $2 hand. That's an extra 12% to the house. :laugh: And that's just blackjack. Lets not even talk of the robot's feeding the slot machine getting back a 82% payback. What incentive do they have to offer better games?

 

[NightOwl]

Delaware begins table games this friday (memorial day weekend). That should offer our first hint of whether east coast blackjack will improve (as we all hope) with the additions of these new locations. If one offers bad rules and conditions, others like Pa and Ohio are more likely to follow suit.

Will the casinos in Delaware be ready by Friday?

 

[kewljason]

Will the casinos in Delaware be ready by Friday?

The report on the national news said table games officially start Friday. They indicated there would likely be a soft, unanounced opening or trial run a day or two earlier.