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It sounds like you have generated a strategy for a “no-peek” game using the strategy engine or trainer. In that case the plays you mention are correct.
But if you are playing a standard US-style game, make sure you choose “peek” instead. The strategy for those hands will then change.
Edited to add: It looks like you are probably in the UK, where no-peek is the norm. As my charts indicate, don’t split against a dealer Ace, because you could lose both bets to a dealer blackjack. (Against a ten, only split aces.) That can’t happen in a peek game.
I am 20 and I have just started playing blackjack. Your site has been extremely helpful, in the past two weeks I have gone through all the lessons and have done all the homework. I am counting five decks, ten times a day and I am also practicing game situations regularly. Tomorrow, I am hoping to try my luck at the local casino with my new knowledge. Now I think I can count without a problem at the casino because the dealers are extremely slow especially the ones covering the early shift. However, I would like to ask you a question about penetration which I am not certain of. Now the dealer at the casino puts the cards from the discard tray into the shoe after every hand so does that mean that to calculate my true count, I would always have to divide by five as they use five decks.
Please help me
I have bad news. The game you describe is using a continuous shuffle machine, which means that recently used cards can re-appear in the game immediately. Since the deck composition does not change over time as it does in a non-CSM game, this game cannot be beaten with card counting. You will need to find games that do not use a CSM to be able to count cards. (To specifically answer your question, you would indeed always divide by five, but you would also need to zero out your running count after each and every hand, because the entire five decks is essentially reshuffled constantly.)
Ho una domanda: dopo aver calcolato il conteggio vero, si continua a contare con il conteggio vero o con il conteggio in corso?
ad esempio:
1 mazzo è stato giocato in una scarpa a 6 mazzi, e il conteggio in corso è 5, si divide 5 /5 = un conteggio vero di 1. dopo che il mazziere ricomincia a distribuire, si continuerà il conteggio in corso di 5 o si inizierà con il conteggio vero di 1?
Si tiene sempre traccia del conteggio corrente. Per le decisioni relative alle scommesse e alle giocate, si passa al conteggio reale, ma si riprende il conteggio con il conteggio corrente.
Just as the post above says… The number of spots in play, plus the number of rounds dealt, equals six. If three spots are in play, they will be dealt three hands between shuffles. If there are four spots in play, they will get two hands between shuffles.
Playin 8 deck shoes in Canada. Use an app on my phone that tracks the count by using volume up and down. Dont have to pull my phone out for anything. Vibrates when conditions are suitable for a big bet. App keeps a running count and true count as it counts down the cards. Phone screen looks blank while program runs
This app would be illegal in the US, and is likely illegal in Canada too. Besides, card counting is not rocket science. Just use your brain, leave your phone alone, and avoid legal trouble.
I use another app for baccarat aswell and run it as I bet behind people when conditions are ideal. App keeps a running tally of cards played with suggested play for next deal. Usually I wait for 2 or 3 losses in a row before I wager. Extremely lucrative and very accurate.
A baccarat app is worse than useless. You cannot beat baccarat by counting cards, and anyone who tells you otherwise doesn’t know what they are talking about. Go read Peter Griffin’s analysis of the topic.
And if you think that waiting for 2 or 3 losses before betting is “extremely lucrative and very accurate”, you have some expensive lessons coming your way.
Actually, given your two posts today, I would bet that you are the developer of these snake-oil apps. Don’t bother touting them here. We know better.
Ho contato per circa 3 mesi,
Migliora ogni giorno di più!
Le tue schede strategiche sono davvero utili!
La mia domanda è: i casinò in cui gioco a Black Jack usano una scarpa a sei mazzi.
Quando cambiano mazziere a metà della partita. Il nuovo mazziere brucia sempre la prima carta.
Devo considerare questa carta come una carta negativa o neutra. Dal momento che non vedo mai la carta.
Grazie.
Hi Blackjack, great put down! You mentioned playing in Asia. Is there any place on that continent where one can still find non-CSM games – manual shoe with manual or automated (not CSM) shuffle? Macau and Genting (Malaysia) gave up manual shoes in a complete surrender to CSM several years ago. (And, further,Genting has only 4 BJ tables left outside VIP in a major shift from BJ to Pontoon).
Don’t know if Korea and Philippines have made a similar switch. I bet newbie Singapore too follows Malaysia’s lead as Genting is from there and Sands are the ones who first proliferated CSM as a standard in Macau.
Back to Macau: everyone fell in line with Sands and their CSMs, even the former monopoly casinos of Stanley Ho – by what almost looks like tacit cartel-like agreement. Not even one of those proliferating casinos seems to have cared/dared to break to differentiate themselves! Maybe because the main custom switched from the more knowledgeable Hong Konger regulars over the weekend to a constant churn of one-off raw Mainlanders any day of the week).Caveat – don’t know about those hidden away VVIP rooms though.
So any list of still manual shoe blackjack casinos in Asia that you know of will be much appreciated.
Ehi Blackjohn, Fallsview, al di fuori della sala VIP, ha un bel po' di macchine automatiche per mescolare (ASM, non CSM), ma anche giochi a scarpa manuali, come quelli citati da Ken negli Stati Uniti. Controlla la sala dei giochi da tavolo in fondo alla sala VIP. A differenza dei tavoli completamente manuali della sala VIP, non sono a rimescolamento manuale, ma nemmeno CSM. La macchina ha semplicemente il ruolo di mescolare automaticamente lo stack in verticale, invece di farlo fare al dealer in modo manuale. Il resto è lo stesso di una partita manuale - taglio, rimescolamento delle carte, caricamento nella scarpa vuota - tranne che si tratta di un tavolo da 8 (nella sala VIP i tavoli completamente manuali sono da 6). L'intervallo tra una scarpa e l'altra lascia a malapena il tempo per una pausa in bagno.
Attenzione: una piccola manciata di tavoli a basso numero di posti a sedere con ASM e puntate minime di $5 -10 sono "Il Blackjack paga 6/5" o qualcosa di altrettanto evitabile. In tutti gli altri tavoli (CSM e ASM) di quella sala la puntata minima regolare è di $25, ma in momenti di grande affluenza o se tutti i giocatori seduti ne fanno richiesta e il pit boss li asseconda, possono essere aumentati a $50 o addirittura a $100 - le puntate minime dei giocatori esistenti vengono mantenute fino a quando non abbandonano il tavolo, ma limitate a una mano ciascuno.
I played live one night. Lost 20k, bout 73% of the cards were 7 or lower so every time i doubled i would get a 2 or 3 45% of the time at almost even time, so i ADJUSTED!! I stopped Doubling, keep hitting the 10 or 11 n get to 21 the hard way but I watched 32 cards come out n only 3 pictures, right!?.. Wasnt mad that i lost, but watched the next 60 cards come out, n told the dealer to watch with me., 8 picture cards came out, he started shaking his head i jus looked, shook my head n went about my buisness. End if the day ” i dont have to cheat to win, so i didnt like being cheated to lose”. Learn from this post cause Discipline is Key ?
Why dont you advise splitting 8s on ten and ace and ace on ace like other srategys thanks
It sounds like you have generated a strategy for a “no-peek” game using the strategy engine or trainer. In that case the plays you mention are correct.
But if you are playing a standard US-style game, make sure you choose “peek” instead. The strategy for those hands will then change.
Edited to add: It looks like you are probably in the UK, where no-peek is the norm. As my charts indicate, don’t split against a dealer Ace, because you could lose both bets to a dealer blackjack. (Against a ten, only split aces.) That can’t happen in a peek game.
Dear Sir
I am 20 and I have just started playing blackjack. Your site has been extremely helpful, in the past two weeks I have gone through all the lessons and have done all the homework. I am counting five decks, ten times a day and I am also practicing game situations regularly. Tomorrow, I am hoping to try my luck at the local casino with my new knowledge. Now I think I can count without a problem at the casino because the dealers are extremely slow especially the ones covering the early shift. However, I would like to ask you a question about penetration which I am not certain of. Now the dealer at the casino puts the cards from the discard tray into the shoe after every hand so does that mean that to calculate my true count, I would always have to divide by five as they use five decks.
Please help me
I have bad news. The game you describe is using a continuous shuffle machine, which means that recently used cards can re-appear in the game immediately. Since the deck composition does not change over time as it does in a non-CSM game, this game cannot be beaten with card counting. You will need to find games that do not use a CSM to be able to count cards. (To specifically answer your question, you would indeed always divide by five, but you would also need to zero out your running count after each and every hand, because the entire five decks is essentially reshuffled constantly.)
Ho una domanda: dopo aver calcolato il conteggio vero, si continua a contare con il conteggio vero o con il conteggio in corso?
ad esempio:
1 mazzo è stato giocato in una scarpa a 6 mazzi, e il conteggio in corso è 5, si divide 5 /5 = un conteggio vero di 1. dopo che il mazziere ricomincia a distribuire, si continuerà il conteggio in corso di 5 o si inizierà con il conteggio vero di 1?
Si tiene sempre traccia del conteggio corrente. Per le decisioni relative alle scommesse e alle giocate, si passa al conteggio reale, ma si riprende il conteggio con il conteggio corrente.
what does “it deals to the rule of six” mean? I am translating a paper and I don´t know how to put it in Spanish.
Thank you in advance.
Just as the post above says… The number of spots in play, plus the number of rounds dealt, equals six. If three spots are in play, they will be dealt three hands between shuffles. If there are four spots in play, they will get two hands between shuffles.
Playin 8 deck shoes in Canada. Use an app on my phone that tracks the count by using volume up and down. Dont have to pull my phone out for anything. Vibrates when conditions are suitable for a big bet. App keeps a running count and true count as it counts down the cards. Phone screen looks blank while program runs
This app would be illegal in the US, and is likely illegal in Canada too. Besides, card counting is not rocket science. Just use your brain, leave your phone alone, and avoid legal trouble.
I use another app for baccarat aswell and run it as I bet behind people when conditions are ideal. App keeps a running tally of cards played with suggested play for next deal. Usually I wait for 2 or 3 losses in a row before I wager. Extremely lucrative and very accurate.
A baccarat app is worse than useless. You cannot beat baccarat by counting cards, and anyone who tells you otherwise doesn’t know what they are talking about. Go read Peter Griffin’s analysis of the topic.
And if you think that waiting for 2 or 3 losses before betting is “extremely lucrative and very accurate”, you have some expensive lessons coming your way.
Actually, given your two posts today, I would bet that you are the developer of these snake-oil apps. Don’t bother touting them here. We know better.
Ho contato per circa 3 mesi,
Migliora ogni giorno di più!
Le tue schede strategiche sono davvero utili!
La mia domanda è: i casinò in cui gioco a Black Jack usano una scarpa a sei mazzi.
Quando cambiano mazziere a metà della partita. Il nuovo mazziere brucia sempre la prima carta.
Devo considerare questa carta come una carta negativa o neutra. Dal momento che non vedo mai la carta.
Grazie.
Ignora qualsiasi carta non vista, quindi trattala come neutrale. È come se quella carta fosse dietro la carta tagliata, per non essere mai utilizzata.
K grazie mille!
Ever consider the times you may be HELPED by someone’s bonehead play?
tends to even out over time, I’d think.
Hi Blackjack, great put down! You mentioned playing in Asia. Is there any place on that continent where one can still find non-CSM games – manual shoe with manual or automated (not CSM) shuffle? Macau and Genting (Malaysia) gave up manual shoes in a complete surrender to CSM several years ago. (And, further,Genting has only 4 BJ tables left outside VIP in a major shift from BJ to Pontoon).
Don’t know if Korea and Philippines have made a similar switch. I bet newbie Singapore too follows Malaysia’s lead as Genting is from there and Sands are the ones who first proliferated CSM as a standard in Macau.
Back to Macau: everyone fell in line with Sands and their CSMs, even the former monopoly casinos of Stanley Ho – by what almost looks like tacit cartel-like agreement. Not even one of those proliferating casinos seems to have cared/dared to break to differentiate themselves! Maybe because the main custom switched from the more knowledgeable Hong Konger regulars over the weekend to a constant churn of one-off raw Mainlanders any day of the week).Caveat – don’t know about those hidden away VVIP rooms though.
So any list of still manual shoe blackjack casinos in Asia that you know of will be much appreciated.
Ehi Blackjohn, Fallsview, al di fuori della sala VIP, ha un bel po' di macchine automatiche per mescolare (ASM, non CSM), ma anche giochi a scarpa manuali, come quelli citati da Ken negli Stati Uniti. Controlla la sala dei giochi da tavolo in fondo alla sala VIP. A differenza dei tavoli completamente manuali della sala VIP, non sono a rimescolamento manuale, ma nemmeno CSM. La macchina ha semplicemente il ruolo di mescolare automaticamente lo stack in verticale, invece di farlo fare al dealer in modo manuale. Il resto è lo stesso di una partita manuale - taglio, rimescolamento delle carte, caricamento nella scarpa vuota - tranne che si tratta di un tavolo da 8 (nella sala VIP i tavoli completamente manuali sono da 6). L'intervallo tra una scarpa e l'altra lascia a malapena il tempo per una pausa in bagno.
Attenzione: una piccola manciata di tavoli a basso numero di posti a sedere con ASM e puntate minime di $5 -10 sono "Il Blackjack paga 6/5" o qualcosa di altrettanto evitabile. In tutti gli altri tavoli (CSM e ASM) di quella sala la puntata minima regolare è di $25, ma in momenti di grande affluenza o se tutti i giocatori seduti ne fanno richiesta e il pit boss li asseconda, possono essere aumentati a $50 o addirittura a $100 - le puntate minime dei giocatori esistenti vengono mantenute fino a quando non abbandonano il tavolo, ma limitate a una mano ciascuno.
I played live one night. Lost 20k, bout 73% of the cards were 7 or lower so every time i doubled i would get a 2 or 3 45% of the time at almost even time, so i ADJUSTED!! I stopped Doubling, keep hitting the 10 or 11 n get to 21 the hard way but I watched 32 cards come out n only 3 pictures, right!?.. Wasnt mad that i lost, but watched the next 60 cards come out, n told the dealer to watch with me., 8 picture cards came out, he started shaking his head i jus looked, shook my head n went about my buisness. End if the day ” i dont have to cheat to win, so i didnt like being cheated to lose”. Learn from this post cause Discipline is Key ?
L'ho usato molte volte al tavolo e i capi dei box mi hanno detto che è perfettamente legale. Nessun problema.