Katweezel
Well-Known Member
Patterson hoodoo voodoo
When years ago, I paid over my one grand for my card counting system, my instructor said I should never play a CSM because there is no way they can be beaten. I believed him. He also said he had been (card counting) banned from 12 of the 13 casinos in Australia and was forced to play overseas. He now lives in Hong Kong, where it is mostly CSM I read. So obviously, there is a huge need for something to tackle the impossible: beat a CSM more often than not. Can it be done?
For years I avoided them like the plague; even though I saw a guy win a lot of cash on one, playing all 7 spots max, with perfect BS. That was the only time I ever saw such a thing on a CSM. Then Josh wrote about his Amsterdam trip and his CSM observations there.
These two things intrigued me and so I have been kicking a few things around lately, with trying to incorporate a few of my favorite topics, such as dealer busts, dealer blackjacks V player Blackjacks, MHBJ and streaks. (These are about the only four I can think of that might apply to a CSM, that I am familiar with.)
So with all these things in mind, I am experimenting with the dreaded beasts. So far I am about even; which is not bad at all for just 5 tries, and beyond my early expectations. So that is promising. One big thing is I no longer believe I am attempting the impossible!
Yeah, main floors here are mostly CSMs, (although I read here on this sitet that Melbourne's Crown has restored a few $10 + $15 shuffled 8-deck tables.) Son of Kerry, James Packer owns Crown and Burswood in Perth, 3 in Vegas and one being built in Macau. But since his dad died, his wealth has dropped by half, down from $6B to 3. Poor thing. (That could be a reason why hand-shuffled decks suddenly reappeared!)
With just 13 casinos for 20 million people, and one casino per capital city, that means competition is a missing factor which could help players. Plus there are only 4 or 5 casino owners, making this a small fishbowl - as compared to 800+ casinos in your backyard.
Yep, there are playable games in every state, in HR rooms. $50 min $5000 max. The HR entry fee: flash 10 grand cash and look clean, well-dressed and can walk straight, should get you a start at a hand-shuffled 6-deck shoe ENHC game, with no surrender, dealer stands s17, 75% pen, split once, split aces once, double or split against dealer A, double bet returned, double 9,10,11. Those are pretty good rules I think. Tough scrutiny. Cheers mate. :cat:
Yeah Tarzan, you got a Patterson system flyer flaw right there. All those other mugs groan, but his mugs are laughing all the way to the cage!...lolTarzan said:====A few more throws and he sevens out. Groans replace the cheers. Meanwhile what are you doing at this table? You are quietly grinding out a profit. The other players are winning, losing, winning, losing.. but you are taking down units of profit in a very consistent fashion.... Are you beginning to get the idea?====
Wait just a sec here--- "7 comes and everyone groans... except for you because with the amazo craps system you are the only one that didn't lose!!! Get it? Magic!!!! Hurry up and buy this system so you are all giggly and smiling when everyone else is groaning away!!!!"
I don't know anything about craps and don't play it but I often see some sad, long faces as I am strolling by those craps tables and desperate looking people with scraps of red chips in those little trays built into the table in front of them. This non-counting system for blackjack also covers craps and roulette? I didn't know that. Hell, guess I need to run right out and buy it, Kat!
I'm guessing this system is all about betting progression and riding the "flow of streaks and runs" sort of thing. I often hear people at the blackjack table say very peculiar, superstitious things and then use this as the basis of their betting strategy... sort of being able to psychically determine that they are on that winning streak/losing streak and go from there. There have been times when I have seen people win a few hands and then go "hog wild mental patient" with their betting (while I have an exact count and know all is not peachy keen and am betting minimums if anything) and I see an ugly slow motion train wreck occur with them.
Not like I haven't seen it go the other way also though! I watched a guy in a horribly poor count press his bets up due to wins in a row, make lots of basic strategy mistakes that would be to many of us here like fingernails on a chaulkboard and ABSOLUTELY WIN WIN WIN big fat money. Casinos love this sort of player as their windfall of incredible luck only works in the short term and they are guaranteed to hand it all back and then some eventually.
I heard that in Australia there's CSM's all over, Katweezel. Is there playable games there where you are at? Ones where I don't have to attempt to use my psychic ability and Jerry Patterson's system to try and win at?
When years ago, I paid over my one grand for my card counting system, my instructor said I should never play a CSM because there is no way they can be beaten. I believed him. He also said he had been (card counting) banned from 12 of the 13 casinos in Australia and was forced to play overseas. He now lives in Hong Kong, where it is mostly CSM I read. So obviously, there is a huge need for something to tackle the impossible: beat a CSM more often than not. Can it be done?
For years I avoided them like the plague; even though I saw a guy win a lot of cash on one, playing all 7 spots max, with perfect BS. That was the only time I ever saw such a thing on a CSM. Then Josh wrote about his Amsterdam trip and his CSM observations there.
These two things intrigued me and so I have been kicking a few things around lately, with trying to incorporate a few of my favorite topics, such as dealer busts, dealer blackjacks V player Blackjacks, MHBJ and streaks. (These are about the only four I can think of that might apply to a CSM, that I am familiar with.)
So with all these things in mind, I am experimenting with the dreaded beasts. So far I am about even; which is not bad at all for just 5 tries, and beyond my early expectations. So that is promising. One big thing is I no longer believe I am attempting the impossible!
Yeah, main floors here are mostly CSMs, (although I read here on this sitet that Melbourne's Crown has restored a few $10 + $15 shuffled 8-deck tables.) Son of Kerry, James Packer owns Crown and Burswood in Perth, 3 in Vegas and one being built in Macau. But since his dad died, his wealth has dropped by half, down from $6B to 3. Poor thing. (That could be a reason why hand-shuffled decks suddenly reappeared!)
With just 13 casinos for 20 million people, and one casino per capital city, that means competition is a missing factor which could help players. Plus there are only 4 or 5 casino owners, making this a small fishbowl - as compared to 800+ casinos in your backyard.
Yep, there are playable games in every state, in HR rooms. $50 min $5000 max. The HR entry fee: flash 10 grand cash and look clean, well-dressed and can walk straight, should get you a start at a hand-shuffled 6-deck shoe ENHC game, with no surrender, dealer stands s17, 75% pen, split once, split aces once, double or split against dealer A, double bet returned, double 9,10,11. Those are pretty good rules I think. Tough scrutiny. Cheers mate. :cat: